Because an entire race of Blue Polysexual Mono-Gender females only able to birth other females didn’t seem to click very well with the Saudis.
Could they use AI to reverse engineer all of the EA games like they did with the Adobe apps? I mean, if there are any companies who deserve it, companies doing things like this absolutely do.
what are you even asking? what would such “reverse engineered EA games” look like?
We live in a world where people with money can buy and do anything as they want without having to deal with any consequences… shouldn’t we do something about it? And I mean 10 years ago at least
Sure.
Stop seeing their money as valuable, and convince others to do the same.
Don’t accept money for anything outside of work. Only accept things of value. And when possible, don’t offer money for things. Offer things of value, or work, or trades.
Because the money’s not actually valuable. They’re intentionally devaluing it so that they can be the only ones with enough left to have anything considered wealth.
If the population devalues the currency, that creates all kinds of problems.
Man EA is a given to boycott. No peer-pressure or 10/10 reviews is going to change that for me. Since the days of the endless yearly sports games in the 90s it was clear they’re c🤘nts
Don’t forget the “we don’t want to pay sega a licensing fee despite selling games at the same price so we’re making our own genesis cartridges” as well.
Offense to whom? Just like in real life, you can reject advances from those you aren’t interested in…
Isn’t this exactly the kind of thing conservatives were always worried about happening to them?
Projection is a psychological defense mechanism that involves attributing one’s undesirable traits, feelings, or impulses to other people.
https://www.simplypsychology.org/psychological-projection-defense-mechanism.html
Its always projection
You don’t fucking say
Well, I doubt most reasonable people strictly needed more reasons to want EA and everything associated with it to stop existing, but here is one anyway.
saudis gonna sod
No alcohol. No exposed ankles. No gays.
Is it ok to dismember journalists while they’re still alive though?
Hilariously, one of the parts of Mass Effect that hasn’t aged super well is a running joke across all three games where you (a decorated military figure) can punch out a news reporter for trying to make you look bad on the news. To the point where if you do it in 1 and 2, she dodges in 3 but you can react to a prompt to headbutt her and walk away with her slumped against a wall.
The paragon options for dealing with her include responding to her goading question about military losses caused by your decision by being a good brave little soldier and listing the names of the ships lost in the action.
Ok sure, but beating the reporter is the bad option in those scenes, just to be clear.
Only if you keep the dismembered ankles covered up.
No smoking, no swearing and no ALIEN SEX!
The inclusion of marginalized groups of people has never been the problem in games. It’s the preachy, political language that often comes with it. Mass Effect 3 featured a gay character, but there was no accompanying political language following him around. He was just a character who happened to be gay, and no one gave a shit.
It’s the preachy, political language that often comes with it.
I personally would love to hear your examples of this.
Please… Go on…
I want to preface this with I fully support LGBTQ+ rights, I think they’re human rights, and I’d rather see preachy inclusion than no inclusion or attacks on LGBTQ+ people.
That said, I can’t think of an example in games but if you’re familiar with Doctor Who then Rose Noble (Donna Nobles’ daughter) from the 60th anniversary specials is I think an example I see often held up as preachy inclusion instead of just inclusion; especially since it comes after what I think is a better handling of it in the same show.
Explanation for those who haven't seen, spoilered for those catching up on show still
In the episode (The Star Beast), Donna’s daughter is trans, portrayed by a trans actress (side note, I need to watch Cassie Workman Is Witchy AF, I hear the trans representation in there is fantastic and that it’s a good show).
Towards the end of the episode the show takes like ten minutes to stop and preach that she’s trans and it’s good. One of the actual lines (talking to the Doctor) is
“DONNA: And you know nothing. It’s a shame you’re not a woman any more, cos she’d have understood.
ROSE: We’ve got all that power, but there is a way to get rid of it. Something a male-presenting Time Lord will never understand.”They make a big deal about them being nonbinary and woman and the last ten minutes of the episode feel like a sermon about how we should be more open and it’s okay to be trans.
In the context of the episode it killed momentum, wasn’t really telegraphed ahead of time, and just kind of felt like the writer wanted to preach about trans inclusion.
This in a show where, as referenced, the doctor has been both a man and then a woman already and handles that transition in a less preachy manner. With Jodie Whittaker as the doctor they still talked about (in episode dialogues) how she was going to handle things differently than her male predecessors. The male to female transition was part of the show without just preaching about the gender change. The transition was the story without having to stop and flag itself as a good thing we needed to accept and understand.
Against my better judgment, since you seem to be trying to set me up for your judgment, I’ll cite the recent Dragon Age RPG—The veilguard. There’s a trans character in that who is insufferably preachy.
If you eat to tell me that character is completely fine and anyone who complains is just being bigoted, just know I think you’re the one who’s nuts.
There are plenty of examples of immature and brash teenagers struggling with parental expectations in video games. An easy example is Atreus in God of War. He is a little punk for the most part and Kratos interacts with him with barely suppressed exasperation. That game is widely loved.
Taash is nonbinary so their coming of age story will naturally have elements about their gender identity. There is really only one conversation where that identity is one of the main topics. Other personal conversations are about their complicated relationship with their mother, trying to fit in especially after being raised in a different culture, and dragons. Standard topics for a young adult learning to navigate the world.
TLDR: if you complain about Taash but don’t complain about other stories with teenage angst or think those other characters are well written but not this one you can’t relate to, it’s because you’re bigoted.
Was the character preachy because she was trans? Or was she just a preachy character and she was written that way who happened to be trans.
I know a lot of trans folk. I’m married to one and one of my girlfriends is. I certainly know trans people who are just assholes in real life because that’s who they are as people. They just also happen to be trans.
Most well adjusted people can completely separate the two. Clearly you cannot as one “preachy character” in one game caused you to have an opinion such as “It’s the preachy, political language that often comes with it.”.
Games cannot have marginalized characters in them for you because one poorly written character who happened to be trans caused you to assume all marginalized characters as “preachy”.
Do you believe that character spends their entire time in the game proselytizing about their sex or are you saying this just because they have one in-depth conversation about it where they state their opinions?
No, it’s not just that one conversation, there are comments littered throughout.
There was a lot more wrong with the writing than one poorly managed character. Nobody cared about cortez because the mass effect trilogy is a certified banger. It’s just too bad that by the time dragon age came along bioware didn’t have the chops to produce a proper compelling narrative any longer. The tumultuous development didn’t help things. The writing is just the most obvious thing to point at.
That’s not what the person I replied to was arguing at all, and I’m not talking about the writing of Veilguard in general.
The whole series had a gay character in my playthrough
I remember outrage when people found out Jack wasn’t gay.
Toning down inclusivity offfends me.
Sure but they only care about not offending the right people.
Do you have a shitload of money? Then they don’t care.
I want more optional homosexual romance in my games, not less!
If these people think Homosexuality is a choice, then let people choose to have a straight relationship or a gay relationship. If they’re so hellbent on sexuality being a choice, they’ll just intentionally avoid all the homosexual romance options throughout the game, right…?
Right…?
I think its for the best that it was cancelled. The first two Mass Effect games are some of my favourites and I would rather have no new game in the series than whatever EA would produce today.
But we’re missing out on an alien race of traders that will only accept Mass Effect Funbucks, and sell you a range of cosmetic items that change weekly!
I loved Mass Effect 3’s multi-player despite expecting it to be horrible, but it was also the first game I really enjoyed that had such horrid lootbox mechanics.
ME3’s single-player was a masterpiece until the last hour. I didn’t even necessarily hate the endings. I just hated that in the end no matter what had happened, it came down to “pick the ending”. I would have been much more satisfied if your actions throughout the trilogy had determined the ending you got - especially since they had done so much tying together loose ends from the previous games.
I loved that you could actually save both the Geth and the Quarians, but only if you’d made the correct decisions in Mass Effect 2 AND 3. That same kind of logic could have been used to pick the ending.
Why would inclusivity cause offense to any rational person?
They are religious people. Why do you call them rational?
Because we live in the era of hate politics, where societies are being divided and conquered by populism’s of bigotry. Inclusivity counters that.
See, the problem is that none of these people are rational.
What I can’t get over is the idea of “You can do homosexuality in Mass Effect!?” when to have any romantic affair in the game you need to try and do it. If you’re against Homosexuality and you are a male Shepard and you have sex with a male NPC, you had to fucking try to have sex with a male NPC. You spent hours seducing him.
Edit: I totally forgot Garrus is the only NPC who doesn’t have a homosexual romance option.
The amount of people that got up in arms about KCD2 having a totally optional gay romance options, that gives you multiple, explicit options to abort (which doesn’t happen with some of the hetero flings…) but it was too much for them.
Worse there are ghouls arguing that Boltgun 2 is ‘woke’ since it has an optional female protagonist.
I certainly hope the pendulum starts swinging back soon, this is all getting out of hand.
Holy shit, there’s a boltgun 2? And you can play as a sororitas?? Sign me the fuck up, thank you for mentioning it.
Your daily reminder that Grindr servers break when the Republican National Convention is in town.
They literally don’t. You need to reevaluate your media bubble.
but we were just very close platonic friends!! And I accidentally hit the buttsex button!
Then its halal.
To be honest, something like this can actually happen!
In Baldur’s Gate 3, I accidentally had very gay sex with an incubus by selecting a wrong option by mistake…
To be fair, that particular demon could change their sex at will, so maybe it’s not a great comparison.I mean, as long as you didn’t fuck Mizora.
something like this can actually happen
Heh, reminds me of some reactions when Cyberpunk 2077 players don’t realise that Ángel is a male Spanish name and accidentally hire a male doll at Clouds (or a female one if they pick Skye by elimination thinking that Ángel must be female; in any case, the opposite of what they were looking for).
Of course there’s no sex in that scene because V is working and has too many things in their head (both literally and metaphorically), only intimacy, but still, it can be a bit of a shock, apparently.
That means that you are now gay for life. You will surely go to hell. Oh, actually I think you have already been ;)
Party members are always throwing themselves at you in Baldur’s Gate 3.
In Lae’zel’s case, literally.
Romancing Shadowheart was really difficult. But very rewarding. Out of all the romance options, though, I had the most fun with Karlach’s romance plot. It was emotionally healing, especially if you’re playing as Wyll.
Romancing Shadowheart was difficult
Unless you played during launch… Month? Basically any friendship threshold above “hates your guts” (which is easy to achieve because she “Approves” of a lot of no-brainer “good default” options) had Shart wanting to bone you at the earliest possible romance opportunity. I think Gale similarly got patched to be less eager.
Yes, I too ship Wyllach!
Wyllach is OTP
Yeah, Gale went from homie to horny real fuckin quick.
I was playing as a halfling when I first came to the scene where Gale shoots his shot with the magic show, and as someone who’s normally the largest person in the room, it made me viscerally feel UNSAFE in ways I can’t experience in real life.
I guess you suffer from it still and are now gay.
/s
“I tripped and fell on my keyboard and mouse and while they were in there they accidentally progressed the dialogue trees that make you have gay sex.”
Minus the gay part, I would believe that if I heard it in the context of the first ME, it all takes three polite conversations
(or was it four? idr, does Liara’s mission count?)
I’m pretty sure the only same sex romance options are Femshep and Liara, your admin assistant in ME2 (kinda), and then your admin assistant and shuttle driver in ME3. You can’t even romance Jack as Femshep.
The Femshep gay options SUCK. Far as I know they planned for more, but had to tone it down for the very first Mass Effect game already. Puritan ass fucking Americans are not better than the Saudis!
And Liara barely counts because her species doesn’t even have a biological sex. They all just appear female compared to humans and so that’s how they tend to identify when working with sexually dimorphic races.
I was always a bit disappointed that there was no option to romance Garrus as Male Shep. One would think that gender comes secondary to species in terms of sexual preferences, but apparently not.
I think Kaidan is also an option for MShep in ME3? Maybe I’m wrong, I just pick Tali every time.
It’s Saudi Arabia. They’re basically in the dark ages with the oil money to buy modern infrastructure. It’s an absolute monarchy, You get the death penalty for being any flavor of queer, It’s a surveillance state. They literally sent a kill squad into a foreign nation to (successfully) brutally murder a journalist. We don’t hear it much because of all the other constant noise in the digital world but they’re not good people. Everyone turns a blind eye because they have that sweet sweet oil and since like the 70s the US has been on it’s knees for them.
Don’t get me wrong here. It’s a very nice looking place but it’s built on some of the most terrible human rights abuses you can name.
They have almost open slavery. It’s not a good place. The fact that they were allowed to buy EA at all is a problem.
So kinda like what a lot of Republicans want for the US?
That’s were our presidents advisor lives so yes.
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But, I WANT offense. I WANT those people uncomfortable. So let’s do more not less, kthx.
