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"What’s with Denmark going MAGA-level? Here we go!”
All of the west has had conservative aristocrats take over their mainstream parties, the only reform vote is the far right misdirecting anger from the plutocracy to immigrants and everything else.
Without getting a popular reform option fascists will seize the entire west with russia and the us helping behind the scenes, and fix elections like in hungary or however and we will not be able to get rid of them even as they get worse every cycle.
The western european countries will fall like dominoes with current leadership and lack thereof. We need to organize first, then find and groom real leaders, then take elections and direct anger to it’s sources, the super rich.
The consequence of Chat conttrol is a next step to open and control your post cards and any other privat correspondence with the same stupid argument of “security”. Encrypted comunication exist for a good reason.
Alternate title: Danish dipshit fails basic computer literacy test, somehow stumbles into a parliament position.
Also, if he’s the chief architect, then this is what he’s building:
That just needs one CSS attribute to fix
Some context, which I’m sure will be downvoted because we don’t like chat control.
The Danes currently hold the rotating presidency for the council. As such they are required to be the architects of the council position, good initiatives and bad.
The EU holds countries that are against government access to chat services and countries that believe access should be routine and warrant-free.
The Danish “architect of chat control” is thus required, by EU law, to define a compromise position and see if that can be voted through in the council.
The compromise position is a combination of “scanning at source” using both known fingerprints and AI, with a warrant based access process for police sources.
As a compromise position that’s possible passable in parliament and council.
I personally think the whole thing the entire thing is unworkable in practice. But the Danes are getting involved because they have to.
He doesn’t have to go to the press with authoritarian statements defending chat control. This is what he said:
“We must break with the totally erroneous perception that it is everyone’s civil liberty to communicate on encrypted messaging services.”
This is Putin-style authoritarianism coming from Peter Hummelgaard.
“We must break with the totally erroneous perception that it is everyone’s civil liberty to communicate on encrypted messaging services.”
How in the name of fuck anyone thinks they can prevent encryption is beyond me. That ship sailed 30 years ago. People who want it will find a way.
They’ve had the rotating presidency for 2 months, Hummelgaard has been mad that police can’t see what immigrant teenagers are talking about on Whatsapp for years.
Danish Minister of Justice and chief architect of the current Chat Control proposal, Peter Hummelgaard
apparently nominally a member of a social-democratic party
When I was younger, I believed that social-democratic parties were better than conservative ones on matters of civil liberties. I stand corrected on that.
SocDem is still capitalist. Capitalist politicians answer to capital.
Yep. If you want to escape from surveillance and censorship, you’ve got to go to a communist country.
Where would that be?
I was being sarcastic.
Just because the guy is a fucktard, doesnt mean the party is. And the other way around.
Politics is not a “team sport” and we should not treat it like that.
Parties choose whom to nominate as ministers.
I’m not a voter in Denmark and not familiar with Danish politics; this kind of thing would certainly cause me to vote for a different party.
Yeah, I think I swayed too much into a general critic of a way of thinking about politics.
I still agree with you, when it’s a minister.
It’s also worth to note that his party, even though their name, is a middle party now and no longer left.
There are plenty of parties better for the people than them right now.
This is why it’s so important to vote based on policy, not party names or “teams”. Parties can name themselves whatever they want (within reason) and they evolve and change as well. Canada right now is a good example. The current Liberal party is basically the Conservative party of the 90s. Just look at policy and leave the brand out of it.
Never forget, North Korea calls itself The Democratic Republic of North Korea. The Nazis were called The National Socialist German Worker’s Party. Words have meaning, even when they don’t.
It’s more like people in power don’t like civil liberties.
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What if I go into politics and start mrrreow meow :3 in EU parliament?
Fascists, meet the fascists, they’re the modern stone age government
He may be an asshole, but calling everyone you don’t like a fascist is just going to make the word useless
Fascist is as fascist does
There you go, I’m Italian so my definition of fascism is Umberto Eco’s, seems like this guy falls short a bit, we can use other words.
the word’s not useless, it’s just that its meaning has evolved to encompass pretty much all authoritarianism, rather than just a specific subset of it.
Yeah, and we have the word authoritarianism for that
He’s just a misguided social democrat. Unfortunately social democracy in Scandinavia got caught in the ratchet mechanism and is now straying further from the light every year, wondering why their former voters feel betrayed.
Misguided? Why are liberals always treated with kid gloves? Calling this guy a fascist does not seem out of bounds at all based on his policies.
He may be a fascist, but calling everyone you don’t like an asshole is just going to make the word useless
Unfortunately people here are mostly incapable of having nuance.
Unfortunately people here are mostly incapable of having nuance.
Oh, the irony!
