Are we? Seems like GPUs are not available on launch, or even after a long while. Scalpers are at it again. Should I not wait and look into the used market?
There definitely has been some scalping, but also, just, not a huge amount of inventory available (like sub 100 units available across cities with populations in the millions). A bit of a paper launch TBH.
TSMC only has so much throughput available and NVIDIA has other products they’re selling that they can make better margins on than consumer GPUs. I’m a little surprised they launched at all given how few they’re shipping.
I wonder how much of launching now was to generate buzz to get studios to adopt methods of rendering that work best with with software, make it harder for competitors to compete on hardware.
Im still on a 3080ti playing 4k screw upgrading!
3080ti is actually a badass GPU. Upgrading from it would be only a luxury and for someone who’s perusing those extra frames. I’d be so grateful if I had a 3080ti
No nvidia’s just greedy AF. The AMD card due out in March is expected to demolish the 5070 and nearly match the 5080 at $500.
Is it going to be available or is it going to be gobbled up by these ghouls scalpers?
Unlike Nvidia they will not be artificially restricting production. It’s already in backrooms and shelves they’ve been bringing them over from manufacturers for months now. There will probably still be some scalping but it’s expected to be enough supply to actually meet demand.
I want what you’re smoking.
AMD cards are not scalped like nvidea. During the pandemic going to wait outside of microcenter they always had AMD cards available. No one wants them!
AMD have said, the 9070 series is going to be up to 4070 ti performance. Leaks have also shown the performance between 7800XT and 7900XTX, so you can trust these numbers of course.
As for the price, AMD can say what they want, but how they’ve handled this launch so far doesn’t sound promising. A vendor, who has the cards already, speculated about the price, and it was horrible.
Things have changed since then, but until AMD has released concrete numbers, all these leaks are useless.
I also don’t know what you mean with the artificial restriction of production of the cards. Because NVIDIA is mainly producing AI cards for servers and workstations? AMD will be doing the exact same thing, since that’s where the majority of the money is.
I dream that the reason AMD delayed their launch and are being so cryptic, is because they saw how underwhelming the 5080 was and decided to make a card (perhaps a 9070 XT) that matches its performance at the price of a 5070 or something.
Now I don’t think that will happen. Their previous market strategies have been very uninspired. But there’s certainly an opening here to make a play for market share and make Nvidia look like greedy fools.
With the 5070 at a 550 MSRP I wouldn’t be suprised to see AMD matching that for similar performance. Given all the delay shenanigans it’d be shocking for them to deliberately wait for the 5070 info and then launch with a more expensive part.
How much you end up having to pay to get one is anybody’s guess, of course, as MSRP is increasingly meaningless. Since they’ve had cards with retailers for a while and have been delaying there may actually be some stock at launch, though. We’ll see.
The idea that it would “smoke the 5070” and “nearly match the 5080” is probably just fanboyism or they wouldn’t have ducked out from directly pitching it after the 5070 reveal (and if they had a 500 dollar 5080 competitor they wouldn’t be cancelling their high end cards this gen).
In any case, it’s immensely dumb to fanboy for multibillion dollar chip manufacturers. I just hope people can buy good, affordable GPUs from multiple manufacturers at some point. I own GPUs from Intel, AMD and Nvidia and would really want them all to remain competitive in as many pricing segments as possible.
NVIDIA raster performance -$50 is all AMD have done for years now and it cost them like 10% market share, which was already shit.
Unless NVIDIA just has zero stock for months and AMD is always available, I don’t think that’s gonna be any different.
I dont fanboy, I chase value. My house is a mix of AMD/Nvidia/Intel/ARM and I use the right architecture wherever I can.
If im guilty of anything its Hopeium but honestly all the leaks I have been following show suggest that the 9070 and 9070 XT will offer same or better performance vs 5070 class cards at prices far below street cost. Nvidia’s MSRPs are a lie and the market shows that. NO AIB can produce these cards for the prices Nvidia has them selling at without rebates on the back end. Thats why you saw a very small number of MSRP models and no plans to restock. Everything else out there on the market is over MSRP.
We know AMD has stock in back rooms and warehouses, we have the pictures and confirmation from rank and file staff at places like Microcenter. We also know that AMD’s Instinct MI series is not selling as well as Nvidia so they are not as incentivized to divert silicon to higher margin products.
So, yeah it might be another round of shitty nvidia prices and stock, but we wont see the same scalping for AMD, and the value offered by AMD will embarrass nvidia once you turn off DLSS. Why else would they lie and say the 5070 matches 4090 performance other than to try to sell as much as they can before the 9070 forces them to drop prices.
I would never expect anything day 1, ever. Scalpers ruined day 1. And though I would be surprised if they were out of stock a week later. Unlike Nvidia they actually want to sell cards.
Man, I even fucking forgot what “day one” is. Wow. Shit DID get ruined. Scalping should be a crime punishable by law.
Unfortunately it’s pure capitalism. No matter what company got paid. They don’t care about it users got the card they wanted, or even if the scalers make a profit or go bust, they already got paid.
Just be patient. Those new GPUs are so new, expensive and rare that no game has them as target hardware. Stay on your current setup and wait until games are catching up and prices go down.
Honestly, you’re right. I’ve been patient for a long time and I can pull another year or two. I’ve been eying the RX7800xt. It’s on Amazon for $550ish. Maybe it’ll get cheaper when the new GPUs launch and I can then snag me one of them. Or maybe even the 7900xt? Will see
What are you looking for?
RTX 50 just dropped in, they’re in the “beta early adopter” phase, AKA expensive for people with more dough than smarts. They’re the same TSMC 4N process as the RTX 40, and unless you have a PCIe 5.0 motherboard, the RTX 50 makes little sense. No need to go to used market, but I’d personally stick to the 4060/4070 for the time being, or the Radeon RX 7600/7700.
If you need some serious AI oomph… then go to the pro line, there are some nice RTX Ada for less than $10k, or rent some cloud H100s.
Nope, none of that. I was just wondering seeing all these people online not being able to get any GPUs for the last like 5 years now? I have an RX6600 that I got from Facebook for $100 and it has been serving me well. Waiting for the new AMD GPUs to see how good they are (that is where my post stemmed from) so I can snag one and give the 6600 to my son. If I can’t get any of the new AMDs, I was going to get the 7800xt and call it a day.
I think we’ve never really left, and it’s been going on for much longer. All the popular tech gets scalped. Switch, PS5, Phones GPUs, etc. If you can’t launch with infinite products available, it’s going to get scalped nowadays.
Have you seen the issues with the 50’s? I’m voting to skip until na-euv is widespread
Yeah, I’ve seen the melting wires. Good thing I’m a Linux user and don’t mess with Nvidia anyway.
Ye, it’s nice to be stuck with less options
Lol. Oh no. Less options are my thing, friend. Have you ever heard of adhd?
I do, I was diagnosed with it. That’s not a particular symptom I struggle with though
I do, and it’s killing me. The more options I have the more frustrated I get and I quit on whatever it is I’m trying to do.
You could have a friend choose for you?
Lmao. That’s exactly what I do actually. I trust him and he always sends me links to the things he thinks are good.
There are a couple of different things here. The 50 series launch was a bit of a paper launch, especially for the 5090. Scalping obviously happened, but the issue seems to have been very few cards being available, not as much high demand.
A different question is what the things that are available are worth and how they’re selling. It’s not impossible to find popular parts, but finding popular parts at MSRP is hard, with crazy markups changing day-to-day. I bought a CPU last year at MSRP and despite being a last-gen part that has since received a direct replacement, today it’s 100 bucks more expensive from the same retailer.
I’d say not. During the last crypto fuelled shortage there was practically nothing available and anything you could get your hands on was ludicrously expensive. Just checked on a few stores and there is currently some offer at varying prices. Just don’t obsess on last gen Nvidia products.
Tariffs probably not helping. Probably raw materials/components also being hit from retaliatory tariffs, making it harder to produce stock…
Newegg has gotten some 5080 stock around 4:30 PST the past few days. They’re only in stock for a few minutes so mash F5 and buy whatever is in stock and figure out the rest after checkout. Most are bundled with a PSU, but the ones I’ve seen aren’t crap PSUs they’re trying to get rid of like the 40 launch. https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/rtx5080/full_history/
I manage to get a 5080 at launch with a bundled PSU, then sold the PSU and my old 4080.
Why upgrade from a 4080 to a 5080?
So I have a reason to sell my 4080 to my friend at the discount friend price. They got a 4080 for $700 and I got a 5080 for ~$700.
