So tone deaf, and clearly they’re just trying to steer the narrative.

They call out that it’s never taken lightly and it has to happen. We know. Stop killing games just says you have to do something when you turn off the servers. Either release the server source code so it can be engineered by the community, release a self hostage server alternative, even just documents or guides on how to get started.

But they’re going to try to make it about the mean old gamers want them to go broke

I really wanted it to work, for me it made the most sense I thought, as little virtualization as I could do. VM felt like such a heavy layer in between - but it just wasn’t meant to work that way. You have to essentially run your LXC as root, meaning that it’s essentially just the host anyway so it can run docker. Then when you get down to it, you’ve lost all the benefits of the LXC vs just running docker. Not to mention that anytime there was even am minor update to proxmox something usually broke.

I’m surprised Proxmox hasn’t added straight-up support for containers, either by docker, podman, or even just containerd directly. But, we aren’t it’s target audience either.

I’m glad you can take my years of struggling to find a way to get it to work well and learn from it.

Personally I agree. I’ve seen way more startups kicking off with these waves of layoffs. It’s a silver lining, not much more, but I’m happy to see people finally realizing they don’t want the big tech solutions anymore.

Not at all. Proxmox does a great job at hosting VMs and giving a control plane for them - but it does not do containers well. LXCs are a thing, and it hosts those - but never try to do docker in an LXC. (I tried so many different ways and guides and there were just too many caveats, and you end up always essentially giving root access to your containers, so it’s not great anyway). I’d like to see proxmox offer some sort of docker-first approach will it will manage volumes at the proxmox level, but they don’t seem concerned with that, and honestly if you’re doing that then you’re nearing kubernetes anyway.

Which is what I ended up doing - k3s on proxmox VMs. Proxmox handles the instances themselves, spins up a VM on each host to run k3s, and then I run k3s from within there. Same paradigm as the major cloud providers. GKE, AKS, and EKS all run k8s within a VM on their existing compute stack, so this fits right in.

Just focus on one project at a time, break it out into small victories that you can celebrate. A project like this is going to be more than a single weekend. Just get proxmox up and running. Then a simple VM. Then a backup job. Don’t try to get everything including tailscale working all at once. The learning curve is a bit more than you’re probably used to, but if you take it slow and focus on those small steps you’ll be fine.

I think at this point I agree with the other commenter. If you’re strapped for storage it’s time to leave Synology behind, but it sounds more like it’s time to separate your app server from your storage server.

I use proxmox, and it was my primary when I got started with the same thing. I recommend build out storage in proxmox directly, that will be for VM images and container volumes. Then utilize regular backups to your Synology box. That way you have hot storage for drives and running things, cold storage for backups.

Then, inside your vms and containers you can mount things like media and other items from your Synology.

For you, I would recommend proxmox, then on top of that a big VM for running docker containers. In that VM you have all of your mounts from Synology into that VM, like Jellyfin stuff, and you pass those mounts into docker.

If you ever find yourself needing to stretch beyond the one box, then you can think about kubernetes or something, but I think that would be a good jump for now.

Yeah writer doesn’t mention money anywhere there, that’s the real trap. All of those sound nice but I have rent to pay.

Always nice to see a positive outcome, let’s hope they lose the appeal.

Personally I couldn’t stand her, but I’m glad she brought you so much joy!

Remember kids, don’t buy into hype anymore. Hype is a marketing tool. They don’t have to make any promises that a game will be good or even come out just because they hyped you up for it. Don’t allow yourself to be excited for anything until it actually releases.

Gotta love how they always have a euphemism available for “ruining people’s livelihoods so we can appear slightly better to investors”

Seconded. If they can’t optimize their code (which, I have never seen applications require 256 gigs of ram even in FAANG so I find that doubtful), then they need to rent a machine. The cloud is where you rent it. If not Google, then AWS, Azure, Digital Ocean, any number of places let you rent compute

Interesting, would be nice if they showed what the average increase in prices was on this graph too, I bet there could be a correlation…

Researchers always make some of the worst coders unfortunately.

Scientists, pair up with an engineer to implement your code. You’ll thank yourself later.

They ran off even their most loyal players one by one with their asinine moves. Lame games, vendor lockin, nickle and dining.

I was die hard for Xbox. Had every one, dozens of games, more probably. Have fond memories of lan parties and friends coming over to play split screen. I remember playing through halo 3 the night it dropped into the early morning, and getting the beta from Reach.

Then they killed off split screen. And lan gaming. You had to use Xbox live to play with your friend in the room. Oh no they don’t have Xbox live. Oh no there’s an update. Now they don’t have their password. They can’t join my party. The audio doesn’t work. It became a hassle to play with people

Steam just works. And it’s a fair price

What we can? How? I’ve been eating ramen and hemorrhaging savings paying for cobra

Sounds like it, I think docker is exactly what you’re looking for

There’s many ways to do this. Saving the disk state is one, I believe that’s what the other person suggested - essentially stores the disk as an image which then you use for future vms as your jumping off point. This is also essentially how workstations are deployed at companies. (Essentially being the key word). Cloud providers have different names for this too, in AWS this is called their AMI.

Another option is Ansible, which essentially handles deploying a VM by running your scripts for you. I haven’t played too much with this, and I doubt it works with VirtualBox, but it’s something you may want to look into, it would definitely uplevel your skills.

Thirdly is dependent on what you actually use your VM for, you haven’t given your use cases but this is one of the reasons containerization became such a thing - because when running an app we mostly don’t care about the underlying system. It may be worth it to learn about docker.

Yeah personally I see it as Microsoft was forced to allow kernel access, and crowd strike proved why the courts shouldn’t be allowed to make a technical decision like that

Is there a site like this for other refurbished items beyond storage? More cases, tam, cpus?