A former BioWare employee says that EA’s new management wasn’t on board with the developer’s inclusiveness.

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    That is a non-answer to my question. I asked if you deny that denial of the political and social significance of this political action taken because of bigotry is a defense of bigotry.

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    The context was @[email protected] providing a non-answer, saying that the removal does not matter much to them. This is not what was asked.

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        You do not care, perhaps, but your personal opinion on the significance of the flag in the game does not change the fact that its removal was political. The thing being removed was a symbol and the removal was political, therefore the action of removing the thing symbolizes (per the flag being a symbol, obviously) a removal of the things the flag stands for. Which are LGBTQIA+ rights.

        Your personal opinion on the matter may be different were you a member of this minority. Either way, though, I have given you a series of axioms indicating that the removal is a symbolic opposition to LGBTQIA+ rights.

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        The context is yet another non-answer, this time saying “I do not care”, among other things.

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            It is, factually, a political action. Whether it has significance to you doesn’t change that.

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                A meaningless action

                We have gone over why and how it provably has political meaning. It is, per definition, not meaningless.

                I can have an opinion without being in the club

                This is irrelevant. I didn’t say you cannot have an opinion. I said that your opinion on the quantitative meaning (severity of the meaning) of the action has no significance to the qualitative meaning of the action (the fact that the action is provably anti-LGBTQIA+ in intent).

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                    you invalidate my opinion because you do not agree.

                    These are not the grounds on which I consider your opinion illogical. I consider your view illogical because you have declared meaningless a thing that, per definition, has meaning.

                    It is, per definition, meaningless.

                    It is not meaningless. The flag represents an idea. Its removal, therefore, symbolically represents the removal of that idea.

                    Missing flag has no impact on anything.

                    We have gone over how the missing flag has a political and social impact. It does not impact the gameplay, but that is not the point.

                    It does not affect any freedom whatsoever.

                    I did not make the case that its removal hindered freedom. I made the case (with an axiomatic proof I provided earlier) that the removal of a symbol is freedom is symbolic removal of freedom. I did not argue that it is a literal removal of freedom.

                    I personally find it acceptable and a non issue.

                    You can do this. That is fine. But the flag does, per definition, have a meaning, whether or not that meaning has value or significance to you. And therefore its removal does, per definition, have a meaning, whether that removal has value or significance to you.

                    In a bar LGBT people are welcome as anyone else. Only flags representing anyone is not.

                    Matthew Shephard was murdered by bar clientele because of his sexuality. That is a digression, but it feels worth mentioning that LGBTQIA+ people are not always welcomed.[1][2] That said, again, this is a digression.

                    The issue here is not the lack of a flag. The issue is the political symbolism of the flag’s removal. If a Pride flag were torn down from the window of a bar, it would be a political statement. In the same way, if the flag is removed from the game, it also has political symbolism.

                    The point is that there is political symbolism. I am not trying to convince you that the symbolism should matter to you. I am just saying that the removal of a symbol represents the removal of the thing that symbol symbolizes. That’s the only case I’m making here.