It’s great if you can convince all of your customers to use a new payment service. Most businesses are not gonna go anywhere near that. They don’t care.
Yeah, but having a Visa/Mastercard duopoly is already a precarious position before they even decide what to censor. This is just the canary in the coalmine, need to diversify, in different countries if possible.
The canary was when the exact same thing happened (with much greater impact) to pornhub.
Nobody cared. and Pornhub Corp STILL can’t use credit cards and are dependent on bank orders and cryptocurrency.
And I can’t see a lot of developers going out of their way to prioritize this. Because it is easy to say you are sex positive. It is another thing to actually stand with smut and risk getting attacked by all the same groups.
Also, you know what else is a de facto monopoly? Steam! (cue all the usual suspects). You know what people will never stop whining about? Games not having Steam versions.
Because I am referring to when this exact same thing happened to them. Christofacists went after the payment processors who cut off business with Pornhub over claims of CSAM and revenge porn with lots of fabricated victim stories to get the public on their side. Most studies showed that Pornhub had considerably less of both than facebook or twitter (and this was like early 2020s so not even the current hellscape of musknet). But Pornhub did comply and actually instituted REALLY good checks and rules regarding uploads (basically consent forms for ALL participants in a video) and… still can’t accept credit cards.
Did I miss something else regarding why they now only accept bank orders and cryptocurrency?
It’s important to know that it may not be visa and MasterCard directly, but rather Stripe, a popular middleware that provides an easy API for developers to access the card networks. To a user it’d be more or less transparent if they’re just swapping them out
This is the way.
It’s great if you can convince all of your customers to use a new payment service. Most businesses are not gonna go anywhere near that. They don’t care.
Yeah, but having a Visa/Mastercard duopoly is already a precarious position before they even decide what to censor. This is just the canary in the coalmine, need to diversify, in different countries if possible.
Amex and Discover: “We exist, too!”
The canary was when the exact same thing happened (with much greater impact) to pornhub.
Nobody cared. and Pornhub Corp STILL can’t use credit cards and are dependent on bank orders and cryptocurrency.
And I can’t see a lot of developers going out of their way to prioritize this. Because it is easy to say you are sex positive. It is another thing to actually stand with smut and risk getting attacked by all the same groups.
Also, you know what else is a de facto monopoly? Steam! (cue all the usual suspects). You know what people will never stop whining about? Games not having Steam versions.
So yeah. Gamers Rise Up?
Pornhub had a shitload of other issues that weren’t payment processor related.
Curious what you are referring to.
Because I am referring to when this exact same thing happened to them. Christofacists went after the payment processors who cut off business with Pornhub over claims of CSAM and revenge porn with lots of fabricated victim stories to get the public on their side. Most studies showed that Pornhub had considerably less of both than facebook or twitter (and this was like early 2020s so not even the current hellscape of musknet). But Pornhub did comply and actually instituted REALLY good checks and rules regarding uploads (basically consent forms for ALL participants in a video) and… still can’t accept credit cards.
Did I miss something else regarding why they now only accept bank orders and cryptocurrency?
It’s important to know that it may not be visa and MasterCard directly, but rather Stripe, a popular middleware that provides an easy API for developers to access the card networks. To a user it’d be more or less transparent if they’re just swapping them out