No

Crazy, its completely new code? I thought it was a fork.

That makes it pretty impressive

On KDE Plasma theming and Cursors work with Flatpaks normally

And then there is OnlyOffice which also just uses Libreoffice and develops a minimalist web UI and sync features.

Why not join efforts?

Its better than crypto or corpo-crypto (“wireless transfer”)

Sorry, “maximized”. I may need to edit some things.

Extend it to the edge of the window. The panel is above the window, no issue here

Yes I thought about that exact argument. They oversize their panels on purpose, there is tons of other space to click on, which is also way less risky, that next to the close button.

And this expansion is about all decoration buttons of course.

Yes, “just buy new hardware” is not a solution.

But dont let some news fool ya. NVIDIA already won the AI race, so their “new open source driver” will only benefit their newly sold products

True, if I use bottles Flatpak as a GTK wayland app, the actual apps still use XWayland.

Not using any Wine apps though.

Just smell on it and the cocaine goes into your blood

Cash

Funny. True, on superstable but also super unstable systems, having separated apps makes most sense.

Not actually on “immutable” rpm-ostree systems, as these have the best and most solid package management.

So actually when people say “these immutable systems, you just use Flatpaks”, actually on the regular systems you should mainly use Flatpaks.

Crazyy!

Btw I am XWayland free since today!

I have a list of recommended apps here

Some apps need environment variables:

Qt:

• qpwgraph

GTK

• GPU Screen recorder, I guess

Electron

• Nextcloud Flatpak
• MullvadVPN RPM
• Signal Flatpak
• (Element, I switched to the Webapp in Librewolf)
• Freetube Flatpak

You can use xlsclients -l to detect apps using XWayland.

Some may even want to run apps through XWayland on purpose, like KeepassXC for Clipboard access or autotype. Lets see how long it takes to implement all the needed protocols.

You got me in the first part XD

No joking, apart from that

But since apparently PulseAudio is the GNome / Microsoft approved way

I think I understand your point.

Pulseaudio is outdated, Pipewire AND Pulseaudio are now needed. Maybe also just Pipewire, and you can somehow fake Pulseaudio?

I never used a system without Pulseaudio, and Fedora has both (?) Or just Pipewire.

Pulseaudio is the old stuff that apps want to use, pipewire is the new cool stuff (I recommend qpwgraph) which allows like everything.

Aaand it is not overcomplicated, it isolated apps and introduces a permission system. Privileged programs that channel the requests and permissions, and sometimes need user interaction. Its actually less chaotic, the problem simply is that Flatpak ALSO tries to run all apps everywhere. And apps are mostly not up to date, so Flatpaks have randomly poked holes everywhere.

Today I worked on hardening configs for my apps. I maintain a list of recommended ones here. I will just put my overrides in my (currently still private) dotfiles, will upload them some day.

I am for example now Wayland only. Not all apps want to, but with the correct env vars (which I just globally set for all flatpaks, hoping it will not mess with anything), all apps use it.

This makes the system way faster, and applying different vars on the apps is very easy with Flatpak.

Literally no downsides!

Not true. It still has no updating mechanism, the binary may be official, but the rest are random libraries that may not be well versioned or controlled, etc etc.

The post is specifically about upstream supported Appimages, while Flathub is mainly maintained by the same 4 peolple (it is crazy). The request is for upstream devs to maintain Flatpaks.

But for sure not everything is nice. Runtimes are too huge, outdated apps cause huge library garbage, downloads are inefficient, …

Btw get Mull from the DivestOS repo, the F-Droid version has veeery slow updates and less.

I am pretty happy with GrapheneOS. Things like separate toggles for internet, or long powerbutton press foe torch are missing.

But you cannot imagine how much effort it is to maintain such a project, and their base is stable, the updates are damn fast.

First stability and security, then features.

Their core OS is minimal on purpose. I use the phone, vanadium (hardened chromium, with JIT toggle, now with adblock, completely degoogled), their attestation app, etc.

Most of the other stuff are random FOSS projects, I dont even use sandboxed play, but if I wanted to I could create a separate user profile and install it just in there.

DivestOS is doing sandboxed microG which is way more secure than unsandboxed, but still tons of effort and will break a lot.

Interesting. What are the App IDs of those both apps?

If they base on Chromite that is probably fine.

What do you mean?

To my knowledge they dont ship GNOME 46 but some old “LTS” variant (GNOME doesnt do LTS variants)

I mean I already reported 2 issues, but it still works. I can use it without big problems, I use the beta Flatpak (as explained in my flatpak remotes list).

Using Wayland too, Idk about any problems but if it wouldnt work I would just disable Wayland for the Flatpak and the app automatically runs through XWayland