• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    It’s easy to double sales from 1 to 2, and it’s only by that measure that Google is fastest growing.
    In marketshare percentage Huawei and Xiaomi grew more.

    Also I’m not sure Pixel actually counts as a premium phone.
    When I bought my current phone 2 years ago, Pixel was absolutely a sub premium phone with pretty mediocre stats.
    I’d count it at most as an upper midrange phone.

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      2 days ago

      Also I’m not sure Pixel actually counts as a premium phone.

      As far as msrp price goes i’d say they are in the premium segment price wise, but at least here in Germany they pretty much immediately are available at great discounts at least in combination with mobile plans.

      You are right that hardware wise they aren’t necessarily at the top, especially when compared to some of the chinese brands. But in return you get clean software and very long support. And even though the camera might not have the greatest specs the immediate results (which is what matters to most consumers) are consistenly ranked among the best.

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        2 days ago

        I agree except for this:

        But in return you get clean software

        Vanilla Android sucks now IMO, it gets a little bit worse with every update, other vendors are actually batter at maintaining sanity IMO.
        It’s like vanilla has changes for changes sake, and all the new stupid AI feature they try to push on everything is extremely annoying IMO.

        Vanilla Android used to be a feature, but not anymore IMO.

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      4 days ago

      The cameras have always been high end, everything else is upper midrange. The latest one has atrocious throttling.

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        4 days ago

        The cameras aren’t really high end either, they are decent mid range cameras with a lot of AI post processing to make pictures look better.
        Most of the time it works really well, but at other times, they don’t really capture the actual picture.
        I’ve seen pictures taken in fog, where the AI treatment completely removes the fog, impressive if that’s what you wanted, but if you actually wanted the “real” picture, you were fucked because you couldn’t disable the AI post processing.
        IDK if they have changed that, but personally I prefer more moderate post processing.

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          3 days ago

          Sorry, I should clarify that I meant the images produced by the cameras, not the hardware itself. In any case, there is no such thing as a “real” picture that is a 1:1 recreation of what the human eye sees, so it’s really just a matter of whether or not you like the images produced. I think the widespread consensus since the Pixel 2 has been that the images produced by Pixel phones are among the best.

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          3 days ago

          No phone camera is going to be impressive with hardware. The sensors are just to small.

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            2 days ago

            1 inch sensors are no joke, my phone has a 0.8" sensor, which is also quite respectable.
            IDK if you are under 16, but compared to cameras just 2 decades ago, modern phones have amazing camera hardware. My own phone can in many ways beat a multi thousand dollar camera from back then.
            The light sensitivity alone is insane compared to older cameras.

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        1 day ago

        My Pixel 6 was great until it wasn’t. They never support customers. Guess who bought Samsung ever since, those phones get handed down in my family for >6 years.

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    4 days ago

    I always figure, any smart phone I buy is going to spy on me. I have no interest in an iPhone, so my options are either let Google spy on me or let Google + the phone manufacturer spy on me. It’s a case of minimizing damage.

    Plus Pixels are the only ones that support Graphene.

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      4 days ago

      The Pixels can be boot loader unlocked and a different OS can be installed securely. Fairphone and some motos have this as well. GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, and iodeOS are all AOSP based privacy focused OSs. PostMarketOS and Ubuntu touch are based on alpine and Ubuntu respectively, also available for some Pixel, Fairphone and OnePlus devices.

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        4 days ago

        I installed GrapheneOS on my Pixel 9, and the whole process was amazingly well polished. I was definitely suprised by how well it went. Awesome bit of software.

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          3 days ago

          This is the same experience I had … After I found a reliable USB cable. To be fair, the Graphene docs do mention this as a potential issue, but I’ve never had the USB cable be an issue before. As such, I wanted to mention that that warning is legit.