The problem with pro-censorship activism is that pro-censorship activists will find out where something they want to censor is now hosted and then go after that with the same methods they used for the place it was previously hosted on.
Personally, I think these sites should do a thing with cryptocurrency so that you buy crypto with your card and then use that to buy the games. So that way the payment processor can’t get mad at you.
What’s stoping a group like Collective Shout from then forcing the payment processors to go after whatever web domain registrar they get their name from? Or, assuming they don’t use their own hardware, which is extremely likely, that they go after whoever they go through for hosting their website?
As great of an idea as just switching payment processors is, that won’t stop those puritanical pricks because they’ll just switch targets and get the whole website/service taken down if it means fulfilling their Satan guided goals being done in the name of Jesus.
Yeah but those services tend to care a lot less then the payment processors but the I do see your point.
For instance, it’s not as easy as you think to get a website pulled down, or to get a domain name restricted, mostly because they’re not paid for on a monthly basis, they’re paid for on a yearly basis, and sometimes they even have contracts for multi years.
Different clouds support different things, that’s why sites like Parlour still exist despite the massive amount of animosity the administrators of that site face.
Getting a hold of a global register to get them to do something about a domain name on their register, while possible, is not nearly as easy as getting hold of the payment processor.
It seems to me that if payment processing was made to be less effective by this tactic, they would have to choose less effective tactics that sites could choose to ignore. You’re right that they don’t own the hardware, but for big companies like Valve, it would be a pretty trivial setup for them especially with companies out there like open cloud.
I would argue that the next most vulnerable part of the chain after payment processors is not the domain registrar, but the actual web host because that’s where the “offensive” content is actually possessed and stored. At least that’s been my anecdotal observation of the last few decades of internet crusades.
The problem with pro-censorship activism is that pro-censorship activists will find out where something they want to censor is now hosted and then go after that with the same methods they used for the place it was previously hosted on.
This wasn’t about gaming, but explains the methods: https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/02/22/rip-culture-war-thread/
Personally, I think these sites should do a thing with cryptocurrency so that you buy crypto with your card and then use that to buy the games. So that way the payment processor can’t get mad at you.
What’s stoping a group like Collective Shout from then forcing the payment processors to go after whatever web domain registrar they get their name from? Or, assuming they don’t use their own hardware, which is extremely likely, that they go after whoever they go through for hosting their website?
As great of an idea as just switching payment processors is, that won’t stop those puritanical pricks because they’ll just switch targets and get the whole website/service taken down if it means fulfilling their Satan guided goals being done in the name of Jesus.
Yeah but those services tend to care a lot less then the payment processors but the I do see your point.
For instance, it’s not as easy as you think to get a website pulled down, or to get a domain name restricted, mostly because they’re not paid for on a monthly basis, they’re paid for on a yearly basis, and sometimes they even have contracts for multi years.
Different clouds support different things, that’s why sites like Parlour still exist despite the massive amount of animosity the administrators of that site face.
Getting a hold of a global register to get them to do something about a domain name on their register, while possible, is not nearly as easy as getting hold of the payment processor.
It seems to me that if payment processing was made to be less effective by this tactic, they would have to choose less effective tactics that sites could choose to ignore. You’re right that they don’t own the hardware, but for big companies like Valve, it would be a pretty trivial setup for them especially with companies out there like open cloud.
Fair enough.
I would argue that the next most vulnerable part of the chain after payment processors is not the domain registrar, but the actual web host because that’s where the “offensive” content is actually possessed and stored. At least that’s been my anecdotal observation of the last few decades of internet crusades.
Yeah someone will host that for the right price