Did you read the article?

You caught me, no, I should have read it before typing.

Still, thinking about the possibility of the next game is killing my already low motivation to grind. I’ve already unlocked all of the content you can buy from samples, but the super credits are just too painfully slow for me. I think the remedy would be some kind of currency exchange system that allows you to trade samples or medals for super credits and vice versa.

I’d say it’s fair to make a distinction between “pay-to-win” and “pay-to-enjoy”, but I’d argue that the distinction makes little difference because “pay-to-enjoy” is just as bad. I’d have absolutely zero complaints about any of this if the paid content was only cosmetic stuff.

All of your comment is pretty fair and valid. Things could definitely be worse. Maybe I should be more grateful for that? There is a FOMO aspect to their rotating shop, but the warbonds are always there which is “nice” of them.

The gameplay is really fun and a great experience.

It already takes a literal eternity to earn the super credits needed to unlock actual game content, not just cosmetics, without paying them real money.

If they’re already thinking about Helldivers 3, it completely kills my motivation to even try to unlock more Helldivers 2 content, unless we are somehow guaranteed that our unlocks and super credits will carry over.

I genuinely don’t understand why this game is in the good graces of the internet while infested with pay-to-win non-cosmetic microtransactions. The “social hub” will exist not to socialize but as a place to display your paid content to other players.

Get a carbon monoxide detector

Maybe this comment would have been accurate 10 years ago.

No one said irrelevant. Running local AI is extremely niche though

I’m “trolling” yet you’re the one failing to address my argument and also the one calling names… sorry you got duped and overpaid for a laptop that you’re likely going to just end up throwing out and replacing for cheaper…

Loses the argument and resorts to name calling… classic

It is a fact that by the time a CPU upgrade is warranted and you have to replace literally the entirety of the guts of the laptop (because the CPU is soldered…), besides the hard drive and maybe the RAM if you get really lucky with the upgrade path, the rest of the parts will have no value and will be worn, either needing refresh too, or not worth holding onto. For 99.9% it makes more sense to just buy a new laptop (for literally cheaper than framework) at that point

and isn’t repairable

If the components aren’t soldered, then yes, it is. 🤦 My laptop is actually easier to repair than a framework is.

The ports are the silliest of the novelties lol. My laptop just has the ports I need, including an SD reader, and I didn’t have to pay outrageous prices for each port…

The core value proposition is a scam that is not realistic or cost effective for 99.9% of framework laptop owners. Fact.

The only thing I could see being an issue with a desktop motherboard are built-in wifi, bluetooth, or sound chips, and that’s really not been an issue to worry about for years. Complete non-issue for any Intel chipsets, which are basically all officially supported. I think otherwise I really only see like Realtek, which is supported. At worst you just need to install proprietary drivers.

Sounds like framework’s motherboard has poorly implemented ACPI, but this would not be an issue for manufacturers for typical desktop hardware (ASUS, ASRock, MSI, Gigabyte)

lot of manufacturers don’t actually officially support it

Huh???

Intel and AMD CPUs are officially supported in the linux kernel… AMD’s official graphics driver is part of the linux kernel. NVIDIA offers official graphics drivers for linux, although they are proprietary.

I’d have wasted a lot more time trying to debug what was going on with Mint if they hadn’t documented the need for a 6.11 kernel on their website, for example…

6.11 kernel

So… in other words… it literally is supported by the linux kernel…

Yeah I’m obviously not comparing to soldered components, so most of your comment is completely irrelevant.

The options you’re claiming can’t be configured, 1) literally can be, or 2) are silly novelties

$700 cheaper than a ridiculously overpriced laptop? Wow totally great point. 😂

I’m yet to be proven wrong. Enjoy holding onto an old beat up laptop case over the years for… reasons… totally worth it

officially supports linux

Comparing to just building a desktop, I don’t think you can easily build one that isn’t officially supported on linux…?

The unified memory is the only part of this machine that can’t be had for way cheaper with a custom build, and it’s interesting only for super niche reasons anyway.

Yes… they literally all do… 🤦

Here, let’s go through them each together:

Which other brand let’s you pick and choose your storage, ram, display, keyboard, etc.

Choice of storage? Yup.

Choice of memory? Yup.

Choice of display? Yup.

Choice of keyboard? Yup.

Choice of OS/battery/secondary drives/power adapter? Yup.

🙃

Lol okay!

Lenovo website > Make your own PC page > select base model (choice of screen and keyboard) > Build your PC button (choice of other components)

Dell website > choose base model > Explore Options > Build Your Own > Customize now button

HP website > choose base model > Customize & Buy button

KFocus website > choose base model > all components must be configured before you can order

Which other laptop let’s you swap out the main board?

I mean my point is that you’re realistically never going to do this, because its a huge premium and costs about the same as a new laptop… why swap a brand new mainboard into an old and worn out laptop…

Which other brand let’s you pick and choose your storage, ram, display, keyboard, etc.

Uhhhh literally all of them??? Every laptop I’ve owned was built by customizing all the individual components on the manufacturers website.

My laptop (KFocus brand) is like 8 phillips screws, the back comes off, and there’s full easy access to memory, drives, and network cards for simple replacement. Pretty sure it’s fewer screws than framework lol

Framework is a scam. Components you are likely to actually change out are just as upgradeable/replaceable as any other laptop with non-soldered components (keyboard, drives, memory, battery, wireless adapters, screen). In order to upgrade a part like CPU, you still have to replace the whole motherboard and pay a premium close to the cost of a laptop, anyway. At that point, what is the value of holding onto a likely-several-years-old case and screen that have probably suffered wear and tear…? It doesn’t really make any sense…

You nailed it for the desktop. The only reason why someone should buy one is because they specifically want this AMD APU for unified memory that comes in it

Bring on the downvotes by fanboys coping with buyers’ remorse

I dunno, I don’t play these games. The most demanding game I play on steam deck is Oblivion Remastered which runs fine with upscaling/framegen and lowish settings. The nostalgia factor makes low settings totally fine for this game, too, so its not a big deal. Anything game where I want great graphics and performance, I’ll just play on my desktop.

For $900 you could literally just build a decent desktop, but you do you

I’d argue this is not really the case, and their strategy has shifted to increasing the price of actually “owning” games to be a premium experience, ie all their new games are now $80, making subscription prices seem more attractive

Thanks, I literally just looked this up and saw that is supposedly the case. That’s very surprising to me. At least it has that

I have the original and passed on upgrading to the OLED. It really hasn’t shown much age at all, yet. I’m not really playing AAA or demanding titles on it, anyway, and it works perfectly for all of the games I do want to play on it. I figure the limiting factor will be the battery, and that seems to be just as good as it was new.

The clones aren’t acceptable replacements to me, they are more of handheld-consoles than handheld-PCs. If it doesn’t have touchpads, I don’t want it, period.