The scroll bar is on the right so this is intuitive to me.

Don’t think of it mimicking a scroll wheel, think of it mimicking a knob. The right side of the knob goes down when turning clockwise. If the scroll bar was on the left it would correspond to the left side of the knob and clockwise would be up (or at least should be).

I know not everyone would find this intuitive. My wife and I both bought the same make of car twice in a row (before wireless car play and android auto so we used the native ui) and the new ones moved the scroll bar on the infotainment from the left to the right, making clockwise change from up to down. I adapted in a day because it was obvious that moving a slightly curved bar on the right is clockwise for down but it frustrated my wife for several months until she got used to it.

Edit: also volume generally goes left to right which tracks with the top of the knob for me so clockwise is up.

Holy shit! That might be the dumbest arguement I’ve ever heard. I might have heard worse, but nothing is coming to mind.

That’s not a bad idea.

Why not completely divorce your phone from your portable computing device?

Before smartphones, they were getting pretty small. You could probably make a phone that was just a voice activated earbud now. Then have a device that was everything but the “phone” bits. You wouldn’t have to accept the locked down aspects that the cell providers demand, you could have all the variety and functionality of your home computer or laptop.

Yeah, this seems crazy to me. This is a big differentiator. I still hate apple’s ui and several other things but now I can see myself being convinced to get an iPhone. There was zero chance before this decision. If apple ever allows real third party launchers and browsers that aren’t just safari skins (or if android ever disallows launchers and makes all browsers chrome skins), I’d be pretty close to 50-50.

If you can’t do that, that’s a manufacturer restriction. I’ve never had a phone that couldn’t do that and my current one is only last year’s model. I plug it in, it gives me a few options: charge, usb storage, i think something else also, and it works like it always has. I assume the OS files and some app files are protected but everything else is drag and drop as if it was any other storage device like it has been since my first Android in 2010.

My wife loved it too even though she didn’t play MMOs, but she had a basic understanding from hearing me talk about them.

She couldn’t get enough of the DKP minus video from around the same time, although I did have to explain DKP because none of my groups used it.

I keep hearing about Niagara and everyone says the same thing, it’s different.

Could you describe how it’s different? Just the setup, or is it different when you’re using it?