

Are these usable on hardware, and daily drivable?


Are these usable on hardware, and daily drivable?


The GNU Hurd. Keep laughing, it will get there.
Edit: instead of outright promoting the GNU Hurd, I will give my reasons.
The architecture of the Hurd is very scalable compared to other kernels. It does not need much rewriting to adapt to modern technology. Rewriting the Hurd in rust is much easier than other kernels.
It is a GNU project so if it does succeed, we can spread the Free software philosophy to others. It also means that corpo’s cannot influence it.
It is GPLv2 or later, so that is nice to have.
It holds all the benefits of a microkernel.
There is probably more, but they are not as important to me personally.
Is it still considered strong copyleft if it is similar to the GPL then?


Is it me, or is it kinda of odd that nixOS did not go full on nix with the init system? For example, setting up service with nix. Obviously systemd is fine for for me (please do not flame me systemd haters), but I wonder if the nix team thought of this idea.


NetBSD is more portable than Linux and supports a lot of CPU architectures. OpenBSD is secure by default. I think the BSD’S have jails, which are better containers, but I do not know much about it.
For desktop daily use, it only matters if you really want that Unix taste.


What about openBSD? I doubt the most secure OS would want llm code.


Is there another GPL OS instead? I am a fan of the GNU Hurd, but sadly I cannot run it on my hardware. The team of devs is really small, and it is amazing what they have done in all these years.


NetBSD already runs a lot of the satellites out there.


I have also heard of solaris, but never had a clue what it was.
I am pretty sure that is the enterprise OS owned by Oracle. It is closed source.
All I want is an os I can trust, that is logical, works, and stays out of my way.
NetBSD or openBSD is your best bet. You will have to install the desktop environment yourself though, unless you like their cwm. FreeBSD is the most popular BSD, but they are using AI to find security vulnerabilities.


Time to look around again I guess, I’ve never looked into BSD, Hurd, Solaris…
The GNU Hurd is probably not going to be for you unless you have Ethernet and an old thinkpad or dell laptop. In the mailing list, I know the main devs are usually against ai contributions, although I am unaware if they have a policy.
I would recommend using netBSD because the devs have a clear stance on no rust and no llm usage. There is also openBSD which has the best code quality of the three BSD’s, and I think had 2 vulnerabilities in a decade.


I disagree. For one, it’s unenforceable, just like outright banning it.
Agreed. I an aware a lot of people contributed to the Linux kernel, without disclosing they used ai.
Good code always was and should always be one where a human is fully responsible for it; if you decide to vibecode and happens to end up with perfect code, good; if you write it fully yourself but it’s crap it doesn’t absolve you that you didn’t use AI…
Yeah. I do not blame the ai for writing the code, but rather the person to accept and push that code even if they know it is crap.


Like GNU Guix!


I respectfully disagree. XFCE having the same experience is its main appeal.
I agree, and that is why I like xfce. I just would not really notice a difference if the project died or if it kept being developed. It is the same thing with lightdm. Until now, no one was maintaining lightdm. I did not even realize the project was rotting, and kept using it eventhough it was unmaintained since Ubuntu switched to GDM. In addition, I am still using Xorg eventhough it is dead, and it works fine.


I am aware that someone is implementing wayland in xfce, but that does not change the UX of xfce. I probably will not feel a difference in using wayland xfce compared to X11 xfce.


Projects don’t die because you and your cool friends decided that they are old news.
I think he is saying that xfce, budgie, and cinnamon served their purpose, and that there will be nothing innovative of them if we invested more money in them. I only agree with him on xfce, and not cinnamon and budgie. Xfce has been the same experience for a long time.


I understand. You can always increase your privacy with privacy-respecting tools, but qubes and tails are as private as you can get. I am just saying if you want to get more private then stop using the internet.


If you really care about privacy, maybe you should stop using the internet.


Each part of my system must do one thing and do it well.
Terminal: st
Shell: bash
Wm: DWM
Launcher: dmenu
Image viewer: sxiv
Browser: surf
Irc: weechat
RSS reader: newsraft
Messaging: signal
Password manager: pass
Video game: SuperTuxKart
Cad: blender
Text editor: vim
GNU/Linux distro: gentoo
File manager: GNU coreutils
Check this out. The Hurd is just a collection of translators, which are kinda like fuse. https://gitlab.com/AlmuHS/hurd-translator-in-rust