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maltfield@monero.townOPtoLemmy Support@lemmy.ml•How to purge an image on Lemmy? (GDPR Data Erasure)
1·2 years agoThis is a big problem. At the time of writing:
- Users cannot delete their images on Lemmy
- If a user deletes their account, their images don’t get deleted
- There is no WUI for admins to delete images on Lemmy
- It is very difficult for admins to find & delete images on Lemmy (via the CLI)
- The Lemmy team didn’t bother documenting how admins can delete images on Lemmy
How to purge images in Lemmy
pict-rs is a third-party simple image hosting service that runs along-side Lemmy for instances that allow users to upload media.
At the time of writing, there is no WUI for admins to find and delete images. You have to manually query the pict-rs database and execute an API call from the command-line. Worse: Lemmy has no documentation telling instance admins how to delete images 🤦
For the purposes of this example, let's assume you're trying to delete the following image
https://monero.town/pictrs/image/001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webpThere are two API endpoints in pict-rs that can be used to delete an image
Method One: /image/delete/{delete_token}/{alias}
This API call is publicly-accessible, but it first requires you to obtain the image's `
delete_token`The `
delete_token` is first returned by Lemmy when POSTing to the `/pictrs/image` endpoint{ "msg":"ok", "files":[ { "file":"001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp", "delete_token":"d88b7f32-a56f-4679-bd93-4f334764d381" } ] }Two pieces of information are returned here:
- file (aka the "alias") is the server filename of the uploaded image
- delete_token is the token needed to delete the image
Of course, if you didn't capture this image's `
delete_token` at upload-time, then you must fetch it from the postgres DB.First, open a shell on your running postgres container. If you installed Lemmy with docker compose, use `
docker compose ps` to get the "SERVICE" name of your postgres host, and then enter it with `docker exec`docker compose ps --format "table {{.Service}}\t{{.Image}}\t{{.Name}}" docker compose exec <docker_service_name> /bin/bashFor example:
user@host:/home/user/lemmy# docker compose ps --format "table {{.Service}}\t{{.Image}}\t{{.Name}}" SERVICE IMAGE NAME lemmy dessalines/lemmy:0.19.3 lemmy-lemmy-1 lemmy-ui dessalines/lemmy-ui:0.19.3 lemmy-lemmy-ui-1 pictrs docker.io/asonix/pictrs:0.5.4 lemmy-pictrs-1 postfix docker.io/mwader/postfix-relay lemmy-postfix-1 postgres docker.io/postgres:15-alpine lemmy-postgres-1 proxy docker.io/library/nginx lemmy-proxy-1 user@host:/home/user/lemmy# user@host:/home/user/lemmy# docker compose exec postgres /bin/bash postgres:/#Connect to the database as the `
lemmy` userpsql -U lemmyFor example
postgres:/# psql -U lemmy psql (15.5) Type "help" for help. lemmy=#Query for the image by the "alias" (the filename)
select * from image_upload where pictrs_alias = '<image_filename>';For example
lemmy=# select * from image_upload where pictrs_alias = '001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp'; local_user_id | pictrs_alias | pictrs_delete_token | published ---------------+--------------+---------------------+----------- 1149 | 001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp | d88b7f32-a56f-4679-bd93-4f334764d381 | 2024-02-07 11:10:17.158741+00 (1 row) lemmy=#Now, take the `
pictrs_delete_token` from the above output, and use it to delete the image.The following command should be able to be run on any computer connected to the internet.
curl -i "https://<instance_domain>/pictrs/image/delete/<pictrs_delete_token>/<image_filename>"For example:
user@disp9140:~$ curl -i "https://monero.town/pictrs/image/delete/d88b7f32-a56f-4679-bd93-4f334764d381/001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp" HTTP/2 204 No Content server: nginx date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 15:37:48 GMT vary: Origin, Access-Control-Request-Method, Access-Control-Request-Headers cache-control: private referrer-policy: same-origin x-content-type-options: nosniff x-frame-options: DENY x-xss-protection: 1; mode=block X-Firefox-Spdy: h2 user@disp9140:~$ⓘ Note: If you get an `
incorrect_login` error, then try [a] logging into the instance in your web browser and then [b] pasting the "https://<instance_domain>/pictrs/image/delete/<pictrs_delete_token>/<image_filename>" URL into your web browser.The image should be deleted.
Method Two: /internal/purge?alias={alias}
Alternatively, you could execute the deletion directly inside the pictrs container. This eliminates the need to fetch the `
delete_token`.First, open a shell on your running `
pictrs` container. If you installed Lemmy with docker compose, use `docker compose ps` to get the "SERVICE" name of your postgres host, and then enter it with `docker exec`docker compose ps --format "table {{.Service}}\t{{.Image}}\t{{.Name}}" docker compose exec <docker_service_name> /bin/shFor example:
user@host:/home/user/lemmy# docker compose ps --format "table {{.Service}}\t{{.Image}}\t{{.Name}}" SERVICE IMAGE NAME lemmy dessalines/lemmy:0.19.3 lemmy-lemmy-1 lemmy-ui dessalines/lemmy-ui:0.19.3 lemmy-lemmy-ui-1 pictrs docker.io/asonix/pictrs:0.5.4 lemmy-pictrs-1 postfix docker.io/mwader/postfix-relay lemmy-postfix-1 postgres docker.io/postgres:15-alpine lemmy-postgres-1 proxy docker.io/library/nginx lemmy-proxy-1 user@host:/home/user/lemmy# user@host:/home/user/lemmy# docker compose exec pictrs /bin/sh ~ $Execute the following command inside the `
pictrs` container.wget --server-response --post-data "" --header "X-Api-Token: ${PICTRS__SERVER__API_KEY}" "http://127.0.0.1:8080/internal/purge?alias=<image_filename>"For example:
~ $ wget --server-response --post-data "" --header "X-Api-Token: ${PICTRS__SERVER__API_KEY}" "http://127.0.0.1:8080/internal/purge?alias=001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp" Connecting to 127.0.0.1:8080 (127.0.0.1:8080) HTTP/1.1 200 OK content-length: 67 connection: close content-type: application/json date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 12:56:24 GMT saving to 'purge?alias=001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp' purge?alias=001665df 100% |*****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************| 67 0:00:00 ETA 'purge?alias=001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp' saved ~ $ⓘ Note: There's an error in the pict-rs reference documentation. It says you can POST to `/internal/delete`, but that just returns
404 Not Found.The image should be deleted
Further Reading
Unfortunately, it seems that the Lemmy develoeprs are not taking these moral and legal (GDPR) risks seriously (they said it may take years before they address them), and they threatened to ban me for trying to highlight the severity of this risk, get them to tag GDPR-related bugs, and to prioritize them.
- lemmy #4433: Deleted Account should delete uploaded media (pictures) too
- lemmy #4441: Users unable to delete their images (pictrs API)
- lemmy #4434: Unapproved users cannot delete their accounts/data
- lemmy #3973: Banned users cannot delete their accounts/data
- lemmy #4445: Create an interface for local users to view and remove images
- lemmy-ui #2359: Allow users to delete images they uploaded
- lemmy-ui #2360: Allow admins to view & delete uploaded images
- lemmy-ui #2361: private_message_disclaimer to include user's matrix handle
- jerboa #1361: UI for deleting uploaded files
- jerboa #1362: Setting to hide "upload media" button
- jerboa #1363: Add "confirm upload" step to UX
- lemmy-docs #293: Document image moderation
If GDPR-compliance is important to you on the fediverse, then please provide feedback to the Lemmy developers in the GitHub links above.
Attribution
This comment was copied from the following article: Nightmare on Lemmy Street (A Fediverse GDPR Horror Story)

Nightmare on Lemmy Street (A Fediverse GDPR Horror Story)






Hi, Michael Altfield here. I was the sysadmin for OSE from 2017-2020.
Everything OSE does is transparent, so you can just check the OSE websites to see what everyone is currently working-on. OSE contributors log their hours in a worklog called “OSE Dev”. There you can quickly see who is working on what.
The above graphs show 4 contributors in the past ~10 weeks (one is me; we had some issues with the apache config recently). There’s no direct link, but you can then check the wiki to see people’s work logs (just search for the person’s name and
Log):I also like to look at the MediaWiki “Recent Changes” page to peak at what people are up-to as well:
I told Marcin about Lemmy back in June 2023. Another OSE contributor even created an OSE community on the slrpnk.net instance, but it appears to have been abandoned. I’ll email him about this thread to see if he’ll bite and publish updates in this community since there’s clearly interest :)
Also, shameless plug: I started an org that’s very similar in spirit to OSE called Eco-Libre, with a focus on projects to sustainably enfranchise human rights in smaller communities. We’re currently accepting volunteers ;)