Does grub only allow one keyboard at a time by default?

It’s not really a console at that point. The biggest upside to selling a fully complete out of the box experience is you’ve set the floor. Much like how the steam deck set the floor for handheld performance. People have one point of comparison, how does it compare to the steam machine. Not how does it compare to a steam machine.

I mean not everyone might want a controller either. If they’re fine with an Xbox controller (which would work just fine) why force them to buy another controller?

I came from an elite 2 too. I think I feel the same about the vibration motors. I think the OG 360s are worse than the steams, but the Elites honestly seem about perfect to me.

Also I haven’t measured it, but do the elites triggers feel much longer than the steam? I primarily use a controller to play FH5/motorsport and they feel shallower.

Yeah if you wanted to avoid 3rd party software then valve ain’t the company for you. Both the OG and the new controller need either steam input or 3rd party software.

SISR is kinda buggy for me. Until today any time I opened the program it would break my alt tab menu. Like it just never went away on its own, and explorer kept crashing. They also suggest having the controller connected before starting the program. Didn’t matter if the program was quit, once opened it bugged out windows. But randomly today I rebooted to fix the issue and it hasn’t happened since. Yay?

If you launch the game through steam you can use steam input to customize the controller. Otherwise it acts like an Xbox 360 controller that also happens to have a trackpad (or however you have it configured for desktop mode)

It does put it into gamepad mode, but that doesn’t make it act as a normal xinput device.

I found a (kinda funky) program called SISR which forces steam to think it’s always in a game and make it act like a normal joystick. It kinda breaks windows a bit, but at least it works and a reboot fixes windows.

Nah this is painful to use unless I have my arms almost fully extended. And I’m not even that big of a person.

Much like the OG controller, ergonomics are not valve’s forte.

Same. I had an OG controller a long time ago and HATED it and got rid of it. But like a year(?) before the new controller was announced I kinda wanted one again to play with. Not long after I found one at the thrift store and was IMMEDIETLY reminded how much I hate it. But I’m not going to get rid of it because it’s a unique piece of tech. One I detest using, but unique and interesting.

there’s basically no way you can find no difference between the trackpads on the Steam Controller, and the trackpad on the PS controllers

Never said there’s no difference, just that it’s good enough to navigate the desktop on a couch.

Does a PS 4/5 allow you to fully remap all the controls of a game to literally whatever you want?

Not natively, but they’re a normal directinput device so there’s plenty of software out there to do it. Plus steam input for steam games.

How many people do you think really want a steam controller? It costs more than an xbox or ps5 factory controller. TMR isn’t unique to the steam controller, the ps4/5 controllers have a trackpad for basic navigating the desktop on a couch, and you can only use it with steam games. (GN review) For any normal person there’s very little reason to get it over the myriad of other great controllers out there.

Valve themselves even said they’re targeting a niche.

Sure in the gigantic wall of text. Also it doesn’t tell you why, or what to do about it. All they’d have to do is say “run dist-upgrade to update these packages.”

This article says tonnes, but if you go to the original Verge arrival it’s tons.

I’ve had quite the oposite experience. My PS4 controller never gave me any problems for the 6ish years I had it. But the OG steam controller is the only controller I’ve ever broken. I like to think I treat my stuff well because I’ve never had any issues besides stick drift on any controller I’ve ever owned. But in the limited time I used a steam controller I managed to break it twice. After the second time I just got rid of it.

Like 6 months ago I found one at a thrift store and it’s rough too. I should dig it out before the new one arrives.

Bomb proof is not how I’d describe the OG steam controller. Maybe a bomb? They were not built well.

I sure hope it works that way. Because I have a few non steam games I play often and I hate unnecessarily launching stuff through steam. I guess I’ll find out in 6-10 days.

You have to actually launch the game through steam for it to work as a controller. It’s actually worse than the OG controller since I’m pretty sure the left stick and face buttons still acted as normal xinput devices.

No it doesn’t. You must use steam input for it to be anything more than a mouse per the GN review.

It was probably easier to spam continue in PC vs mobile. It wasn’t until I got good at hitting continue before it scrolled I got through.

No controller should be proprietary to one launcher on PC. This is classic valve being platform exclusive dicks.

Did you get the “There seems to have been an error initializing or updating your transaction.” Error? Just spam continue on that screen. Don’t bother changing payment methods, it’s their processor that’s dying.