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  • Biggest thing that I think is pretty badly phrased… is linux “system requirements”. considering in the windows world if you try and install with less than the required ram… the installer will usually stop you.

    While in ubuntu they may say “requirement” but it’s a recomendation. You can install 26 into a VM with 1 GB of ram… and it will run. Really nothing in this version of ubuntu is more resource hungry than the previous version. So in short them boosting the number is just saying “if you use a typical amount of tabs open in your browser, 6gb ram is kind of needed”.

    So yeah I’d say most likely the fair way to put it is, windows 11 will let you install on 4gb of ram… but most would say it’s very unusable even at a basic level with that, you can run ubuntu with that… it will probably not be a great experience, but not as bad as windows until you start running into large web apps or tons of tabs.

    Heck OS’s really could just have an “overhead” kind of number or something. Because that’s the real thing, what you need is system specs that can handle your

    system kernel + system services > Interface (be it terminal or gui) > application (and if that application is loading external sources like web pages, add that in too).

    Point is your “minimum” line, should stop at what you consider the default parts of your distribution. IE interface and below.

    Obviously no one is using it without applciations, but we don’t know what applications people are using. It’s not like we do this for storage. IE we aren’t saying "ok yeah everything we included is within 5 GB, so we’re setting the requirement at 200 TB because you can’t be a video editor without that much space.


  • I mean easy enough to recreate it with a more open database, but yeah still someone pays for hosting, but yeah key issue is userbase. Same flaw with trying to make a better dating site, or anything else location specific. It’s barely feasible for things like lemmy and mastadon where we pull from international pools of people that mostly don’t care if the other users are 500 miles away.

    When you try to do a facebook equivelant, doesn’t really go anywhere because, people don’t need just people, but people they actually know.

    and yeah trying to get “people in the same city”.

    as obviously one guy just reporting the gas stations around him, for an application that only he uses, is just a fancy notebook, and the real problem is would he continue using it long enough for a second to appear and make it actually beneficial for anyone.




  • and security on pages is useless if you are logged in.

    We’re already talking the least of security problems (IE the device being physically confiscated).

    In ross’s case which hurt him more do you think, the fact that his system probably had logs of what he installed… or the fact that it was taken while he was logged in as administrator to the silk road? and it supposedly contained a journal… not system logs, but activities that he specifically wrote out detailing his daily activities.

    The point again is someone gaining physical access to the computer itself, while you are literally in the process of doing things that you don’t want known about, what you are currently working on is 100x more valuable to the thief, feds or whatever, than any of the low level stuff that the logs are likely to be recording.


  • You posted this same silly thing about 3 days ago.

    anyway why isn’t the advice “encrypt your drives” instead of “disable all logging”.

    I mean your own examples are like the least serious problem.

    Who is logged in and when? So we’re talking a multi user system that’s clearly hosting a lot… that’s kind of important for an administrator to be able to track who is logging in when, to know if something goes wrong.

    Package manager logs what’s installed. well duh, what’s the scenerio that this is even a factor? I don’t want big government to know I had, qbittorrent or whatever? There’s no program that’s likely installed via apt that’s illegal to have.

    So yeah in short, stuff that’s vital if you ever need to troubleshoot, useful in general, almost unthinkable to imagine situations where this is a problem (at least in situations in which someone has your user account, or root access to your system for these to be the high priority.

    On the whole the idea there is like.

    “If someone steals your car… they could also steal the car users manual”.


  • Just switch to physical pen and paper…

    Wait, CRAP, did you know that a pysical notepad logs every pen stroke? not only on the paper it’s written, but it puts traces onto the next page as well.

    Sure it’s not sending it to others… but if the police cease the notepad they can recover everything currently written in it, and possibly even some of the pages that were torn out from the indentations on the other pages.


  • I guess my point is federated services, at least prior to a world where they become mainstream, are only particularly good if

    1. You have a group of people all willing to use them together (IE Matrix, Friendster etc…), Join as a group don’t expect to find other specific individuals.

    2. If you do want to meet people, you are looking for pretty broad categories encompass millions. IE on lemmy you can certainly find an anime community, you won’t find an active jujitsu kaisen community.

    Anyway so my point on things like Dating, Linked In etc… those topics are likely to be the last to have a hope in the federation, because their services on their own, require users, but more importantly those users have to be localized (IE dating sites need, both a high volume of users, and those users need to be in close geographical proximity, and have some reasonable male to female ratio, and then have some level of common interests). A linked in needs… job seekers, and companies/head hunters. Of which you can’t expect companies to put in resources without a large userbase… and you can’t expect the userbase to grow without company usage.


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    Is there even really a function for linkedin without… well what it is? The last people to adopt new and open source tech are… corporate executives, and to my knowledge the whole point of linked in is, a psudo job hunting web page, with some social media pages as a secondary (of which people are only going to be posting “work hard” and “I work hard” kind of messages because… well they’d never post something that might make them less attractive to employers.

    I guess the point is, what’s the use of an open non corporate controlled linked in? I can convince a handful of friends to maybe join a facebook alternative to make it useful, Lemmy certainly is an ok reddit alternative, at least for the equivelant of bigish communities, and mid sized tech communities.

    Things I don’t see working in federation, are things that you are looking for… well people that aren’t going to switch for you… and most importantly people geographically close to you. Companies aren’t going to use their HR members time searching for people on a niche career site, dating sites are likely lost causes because… well no matter how bad the sites are… a dating site where most people are 300 miles away from the nearest compatible person isn’t going to be of much use, and job seekers don’t have the luxury of moving before the companies they want to work for go.



  • X2goserver certainly is an option there. not too complicated to set up, or VNC is another option. As always there will be a bit of screen lag when sharing a gui over network.

    and yeah as someone else pointed out there is also the option to run x applications from an ssh client if you enable it. now I will admit I don’t think there’s a huge amount of utility, more pointing out though it’s most likely you are either drastically underestimating the power of a raspberry pi, or maybe overestimating the resource overhead of linux distributions.

    The linux world doesn’t quite have the mysterious resource usage creep at nearly the same scale as windows a slim but still with gui setup can still run in under 100 mb of ram.

    Leaning on the extreme low end assuming you were a generation behind… the raspberry pi 2b+ came out in 2015 with 1 gb of ram. So yeah, while I can’t really name any gui applications that might be desirable to use in that way. IE it could be a decent web browser station, or kodi media player if hooked up to a TV etc… I would imagine lag from using a gui application accross would easilly remove any advantage that you’d get over… well just running the probably existing version for the windows PC that you are likely remoting in from.


  • Definately underestimating it, an old RPI can easily run a full on desktop OS, maybe not like a bleeding edge KDE with all the visuals turned on, but XFCE LXDE, etc… would run fine, libre office and basic IDEs…

    but yeah absolutely zero reason to think you’d have even a wink of trouble running terminal based stuff.

    I mean if it’s already imaged at some level with raspbian or something, technically it’s most likely already set up to do the concepts you are looking at without needing to set up a new distro.

    So to add anything up to date you would probably need to get a micro sd reader… here in the US you can pick one up for like 5-$10 at walmart, so we aren’t talking a huge investment.




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    I highly doubt there’s anything pro-foss that’s actually going to have any shot at forming a local group. Federated tech is niche, odds of 2 people in the same 300 mile radius is pretty slim. Let alone trying for 2 that are looking for the same kind of meetup etc…

    So yeah sadly I think you pretty much gotta go with a garbage service like meetup, or even worse, facebook groups. Good federated services have to kind of lean heavily into the fact that we can pull from an international pool to make the userbase workable. Once you go down to local levels… you are pretty screwed.






  • Not sure that really works for git though… at least with regards to it’s primary usage.

    git isn’t just a backup… it’s about version control.

    IE the point is if you know what you are doing, you realize this function isn’t working in this edge case, you can search through and find out, when did this part of this file change… and what was it before, and it will basically find exactly that.

    If you encrypted it so that git couldn’t actually read the contents, then you basically reduced a crazy powerful tool, into a glorified dropbox. (IE yeah you could revert back to previous versions… but you’d basically be counting on your memory for what you changed when, if the git server can’t read the files).