I insulted sir Gaben, steam and gaben are sacred on Lemmy. I spoke ill and got brigaded, happens to any comments like that. Could do without the blatant insults, surprised the mods allow it, or maybe they just haven’t gotten to it yet.

Funny how month long idle accounts come out as well on those same votes, what does any of it imply?

I never said it was easy?

Why do you keep insisting I’m moving the goal post?

You said it was a walled garden, so it sounded like you weren’t aware that homebrew and modern cartridge releases exist. And are now arguing why those aren’t applicable to your “walled garden” comment.

That’s literally what I’m trying to point out? They all have their own quirks. And yet people bicker it’s funny.

I point out there’s limitations on PC, and get insulted. The circlejerking against Nintendo and for Steam is just wild on this community.

Anyone can release a cartridge though? This part you’re ignoring.

Why move the goalposts? You’re also now suggesting we gatekeep devs? Why is releasing something on pc fine, but wouldn’t be fine if it was “homebrew”? Because it doesn’t fit your bias?

A game release is a game release, or do these limitations only apply to one side unevenly?

Pc is FULL of shovelware, so that shouldn’t be the metric we use? Yeah?

How so? How can it be a walled garden if anyone can develop and release a game cartridge for it?

The games released on carts arent official games, but they’re playable on an unmodified console/system. Where do the goalposts get moved to now? Games are released on something you said wasn’t possible, so which is it?

Any non modern Nintendo console is capable of playing homebrew games, so this isn’t even true.

People have released NES and gameboy games in the last few years. Even on carts.

You said PC gaming is flawed because you can’t play modern games on a Windows 95 PC. Which is insane.

I never claimed that. I said it was a limitation. Which it is. It limits its capability. Limitations are flaws, but that doesn’t make it flawed, it still works. Funny how words can have multiple definitions and you can choose which one to fit your narrative. Having to get a specific system to play the games you want, is cumbersome, it isn’t always easy, or even doable in some situations now.

Quite putting words in peoples mouth, and again with the insulting when someone has a dissenting opinion. You don’t agree with me, that doesn’t mean I’m a sock puppet. Just shows you don’t want to have a civil discourse and go to fallacies.

So yes it’s MORE exclusive in some situations.

In almost all situations.

… you agree the Pc is more limited in almost all situations now? That’s not my claim. I said some.

Right, but it’s not freedom, when it doesn’t run on everything. You need to keep your system updated to play modern games.

With a switch, any game released, you know will play.

So yes it’s MORE exclusive in some situations.

Nobody is claiming that you should run Black Myth Wukong on an old IBM Aptiva except you.

Where? Don’t put words in peoples mouth if you want to have a civil discourse, but of course with this being your post, we know your bias already.

The thing you are arguing for, literally has a list of games it CANT run… and it includes a lot of modern games as well as older, so it can’t even run them… nice non-exclusion eh? It limits on BOTH sides.

able to run anywhere on hardware of your choice i

So if this statement is true, an OS wouldn’t be a limitation.

Of course tech is better, that’s why you can’t play on it anymore with anything modern. Do you seriously need this pointed out?

And lots of old windows 95 programs don’t run on modern hardware, so if you bought something back then, you’re SOL with modern hardware. Limitations everywhere.

A yes, a very insightful and polite response.

Should have known trying to have a civil discussion about anything related to Nintendo would lead to trolls coming and brigading and insulting.

Having to buy from a certain store and being able to run anywhere on hardware of your choice is hardly more exclusive than being forced to buy from one vendor and only run on one system.

But you can’t…? It’s locked to OS, and it doesn’t run on ALL hardware. There’s minimum specs, and you can’t play modern games on windows 95.

Why do people ignore the glaring flaws while preaching the few okay ones? And the obvious lies too. The pros that people use, all fall flat when you follow them. You say all hardware, but it’s not, and never has been has it…?

Pc, where games are locked to launchers…? And OS…?

They have their own flaws, so that’s not even a good counterpoint. They are FAR from inclusive, and far more exclusive in a lot of cases. HL3 would likely be a Steam exclusive, to think otherwise is just ignoring reality.

First paragraph dude…

Earlier this month, the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement added Microsoft to its list of priority targets due to the company’s intense entanglement with the Israeli military via Azure cloud and AI services.

Sciences and space has used SI for ever….

These same discussion happened with photoshop and “brush tools” why are those acceptable to make it less labor intensive, but this isn’t?

It’s more hypocrisy over purism, as you’ve so nicely pointed out.

What have you debunked?

The same “repeating” can be said to you, and is probably why you’re projecting more fallacies onto me.

Ant “debunking” you’ve done, is to justify your bias that certain tools to replace humans are okay. And that’s obviously a hypocrital take, so what’s your real issue here? Just like anyone else, the term “ai” is just a trigger and you don’t like it? It to have it poured to your already “acceptable” tools make you go “REE”?

These same conversations were had with luddites like you when spellcheck came out, than PS, than grammarly. And guess what? They’re acceptable in everyday use.

The same will happen with AI as people treat more like a tool than a toy. Than jackasses like you will be left behind again, but then try and justify it like you are beee when the next one comes out.

Hypocritical Luddites like you are just the worst kind of fucking people.

Says the hypocrite that says one tool that replaces humans is okay, but not another.

Okay buddy, just because you can’t make a coherent argument or come up with a legitimate reason why one’s acceptable doesn’t make me slow. If anything just shows how flawed and fucked your reasoning is.

People have always used tools to replace humans. So this decry NOW over ai is what’s bullshit. They shouldn’t enable to use PS brush tools either. Same process, same outcome, the ai can actually be able to do more and remove labor. But now “that’s” not okay. This is what me and other users are pointing out.

But your “ai bad” bias, has made you ignorant to any actual discussions.

If you don’t want ai, than you don’t want grammarly, spellcheck, auto correct, PS or any other tool. If you do, you’re frankly a bloody Luddite hypocrite.

Different tools with different costs and different outcomes.

Both have replaced human labor, why are bringing up costs? No one’s mentioned that, gotta use fallacies to justify the hypocrisy? The outcomes the same. Use less human labor to make art.

But sure justify one while decrying the other, hypocrite.