Amid player complaints, EA says 330,000 cheaters were stopped in beta’s first two days.
EA says 330,000 cheaters were stopped in beta
Or 330,000 users just without secure boot :P
How thoughtful of them to “apologize” yet keep requiring you to voluntary install a rootkit to your machine to play a video game. Some people are just Too Dumb to Live.
Yeah it really sucks. The fact they are providing free hosting of persistent servers almost makes me want to buy it but fuck that secure boot shit.
Are people still parroting that secure boot is a rootkit, even though its actually designed to prevent root kits from being installed?
Secure Boot is not the rootkit, the anti-cheat software that requires kernel level access (Secure Boot) to operate is the rootkit.
Secure boot won’t let your kernel be modified though.
Their anti cheat software just makes sure that you haven’t tampered with the kernel at all. It just monitors for any changes after the system has booted.
It does not modify your kernel.
Not entirely. The actual anti-cheat software that have access to the kernel with Secure Boot can be modified either intentionally by the developer or unintentionally by a hack. It’s unnecessary attack vector among many other non-security related issues.
My point stands. The anti cheat doesn’t modify your kernel though. Its not a rootkit.
No the anti cheat is just very intrusive and does wild stuff to look at what other process3s are doing and checks system calls etc. The fact that bf6 wont run if you have the riot games anti cheat running (wich alsso is very bad) is telling. If one company cant trust that the anticheat of another company may break something when it interferes with yours is bad. Look at the crowdstrike incident.
Microsoft itself wants all this stuff gone from the kernel after crowdstrike. If your anticheat needs root acess to look at every file, process and syscall to check if you are hacking it is a desaster waiting to happen. Look at all the anti virus programs that were hijaacked to get root acess before.
Sounds like these game studios are creating horrible software on a horrible OS, but this anti cheat is still not modifying the kernel, and secure boot also is not a rootkit.
How does their rootkit work on a virtual machine? Have anyone tried?
It does not, they detect the VM.
Thanks. This is really crazy level of invasion. They might rather build an authorized device at that level and become hardware manufacturer.
I really don’t understand the aversion to Secure Boot, can somebody share some perspective?
It’s a setting that you toggle in BIOS and is found on virtually every motherboard from the last 12 years. Some platforms are slightly counterintuitive, requiring you the manually switch to custom keys and then back to factory key in order for it to install/activate. For booting alternative OSes, enrolling a custom key takes 5 seconds.
It hardens security of the boot process, and It’s already a requirement for Windows 11, the primary OS that most PC Gamers are already going to be choosing.
I feel like there’s a ton of bitching going on over the most minor of inconveniences that will actually prove to be a net benefit overall.
Windows 11
I do all my gaming on steam deck these days, which means every battlefield except 4 is unplayable. Idk if bf6 would have worked hardware wise but 2042 did before they turned on their new anti-cheat in an update.
I dual boot.
Why not enroll a key for your second OS?
I run a custom kernel, I have no intention if signing everything all the time.
I’d have a problem as it’s been turned off since my original Windows 10 install. I’d have to reinstall if I enabled it because I installed Windows in BIOS mode. There are ways around all that, but it’s a little risky.
There a particular reason you wanted Legacy / BIOS mode?
MBR2GPT makes the UEFI conversion easy and can even be run from the OS while it’s running. We get an image backup first, but we’ve never had to use it. There are occasionally complications getting it to actually run, but those are usually when the disk is full when folks have a really weird nonstandard partition arrangement.
