Wow that was fast, but as the developer said himself, clickbaity YouTubers and news sites will have a co responsibility for that. The drop of 32bit us inevitable, and in my opinion it would be smarter to think about how to do this the good way better earlier than later. But probably these kind of discussions have to be moved from public to internal I guess.
No, that’s how you lose users. Private, nontransparent decision taking makes projects get dropped immediately.
The timing just sucked. 32 bit has to go, but it can’t be this year or next year. And it can’t be a blanket drop as the dev wanted. Alternatives are not ready yet to keep gaming working, and gaming was the number 1 factor holding back desktop adoption.
He is also falling for the internet fundamental attribution error: “If I hate or love something and everybody on the internet agrees with me, it’s because I’m always right and we are all intelligent individuals. If I love/hate something, and everybody on the internet disagrees, they were lied to, manipulated, astroturfed, are ignorant, misinformed, etc.”
It could be true. But it could also be that your proposal is very unpopular and you’re wrong.
Lol, how many people do you think are using fedora specifically for gaming? You think fedora is some last year project that’ll die off once it stops supporting this specific “thing”? That’s some delusion of grandeur.
May be Steam and gamers who want to keep things running without problems should step up to maintain those packages required to keep their games running. Then we’ll see how fast the toxicity towards the developers die down.
Why do you think “alternatives are not ready”? Is it maybe because people who work on opensource project on their free time aren’t bothered by what internet strangers think? Why aren’t you working on one yourself?
People shitting on opensource devs to work beyond their comfortability are fucking shitty human beings.
If you plan it 5 years in advance, yeah, otherwise no.
Also if it means destroying Bazzite, they should really think hard about it, as it’s a great “product” with big potential, even for profit in the long run if it takes off.
The support isn’t exclusivity for native 32 bit cpus, it’s for 32bit libraries that compatibility applications like wine/proton depend on to run 32bit windows executables
Even further: The support is exclusively for the 32bit libraries. The 32bit kernel and therefore cpu support was dropped a long time ago in Fedora. Fedora 31 in 2019.
Wow that was fast, but as the developer said himself, clickbaity YouTubers and news sites will have a co responsibility for that. The drop of 32bit us inevitable, and in my opinion it would be smarter to think about how to do this the good way better earlier than later. But probably these kind of discussions have to be moved from public to internal I guess.
No, that’s how you lose users. Private, nontransparent decision taking makes projects get dropped immediately.
The timing just sucked. 32 bit has to go, but it can’t be this year or next year. And it can’t be a blanket drop as the dev wanted. Alternatives are not ready yet to keep gaming working, and gaming was the number 1 factor holding back desktop adoption.
He is also falling for the internet fundamental attribution error: “If I hate or love something and everybody on the internet agrees with me, it’s because I’m always right and we are all intelligent individuals. If I love/hate something, and everybody on the internet disagrees, they were lied to, manipulated, astroturfed, are ignorant, misinformed, etc.”
It could be true. But it could also be that your proposal is very unpopular and you’re wrong.
Lol, how many people do you think are using fedora specifically for gaming? You think fedora is some last year project that’ll die off once it stops supporting this specific “thing”? That’s some delusion of grandeur.
May be Steam and gamers who want to keep things running without problems should step up to maintain those packages required to keep their games running. Then we’ll see how fast the toxicity towards the developers die down.
Why do you think “alternatives are not ready”? Is it maybe because people who work on opensource project on their free time aren’t bothered by what internet strangers think? Why aren’t you working on one yourself?
People shitting on opensource devs to work beyond their comfortability are fucking shitty human beings.
If you plan it 5 years in advance, yeah, otherwise no.
Also if it means destroying Bazzite, they should really think hard about it, as it’s a great “product” with big potential, even for profit in the long run if it takes off.
We’ve known about problem 2038 since 2003. You’ve had decades to fix it, and one more. Get to it!
How much 32bit only hardware is still out there in the wild and not still running on windows XP?
Sounds like a problem for a purpose built distro, not a mainline one.
EDIT: I stand corrected. I thought it was hardware 32bit support being discussed. It’s premature to discontinue 32-bit libraries.
The support isn’t exclusivity for native 32 bit cpus, it’s for 32bit libraries that compatibility applications like wine/proton depend on to run 32bit windows executables
Thank you for the correction.
Even further: The support is exclusively for the 32bit libraries. The 32bit kernel and therefore cpu support was dropped a long time ago in Fedora. Fedora 31 in 2019.
Fedora already won’t run on 32bits hardware. That is not the issue being discussed here.
I stand corrected. Thank you.