I don’t believe things like AI fund are things that should be in mozilla’s scope, at least back when I was religiously donating to mozilla, their manifesto didn’t even exist when I was, but even their old one is something more in line with what I agree with. Mozilla has changed a LOT over the years, and the return to old mozilla is what I, and many others want.
I was going to say that AI has a lot of implications in the online world that Mozilla was supposed to promote… but maybe you’re right, the AI genie is out of the bottle and there is little left to do about it. Its impact will be whatever it will be, no matter what people want to say about it.
Not sure which “old Mozilla” you want, the 1998 one? the 2005 one? the 2015 one? It has changed a lot indeed, but kind of has been Google’s anti-anti-thrust shield for 20+ years.
for AI, a lot of what mozilla is doing is kinda… meh, llamafile is maybe useful. But mostly, the only really neat thing that is relevant to mozilla is webgpu local AI stuff which chromium has better support for anyways atm lol.
Been with firefox since it was seamonkey, and been donating regularly until around baker. Mozilla has had it’s up and downs throughout then for sure. but lately, it’s just been downs.
webnn is neat. I’m not super excited for it too much since last time I looked into it, it for sure had some issues. They seem to be addressed though. ONNX is not a terrible interface to work with either and has good platform support so that wont be an issue. I do prefer wgpu solutions however. While they don’t work with NPUs (for obvious reasons :D) they are pretty much a “program once run anywhere” solution since it supports metal, dx12 and vulkan. (Only recently got fp16 support though so most things are still rough)
but for higher perf needs I can see webnn being a lot more useful
(Not to pull rank, but my mail profile can be tracked to Netscape Navigator, across multiple OSs 😁)
I don’t believe things like AI fund are things that should be in mozilla’s scope, at least back when I was religiously donating to mozilla, their manifesto didn’t even exist when I was, but even their old one is something more in line with what I agree with. Mozilla has changed a LOT over the years, and the return to old mozilla is what I, and many others want.
I was going to say that AI has a lot of implications in the online world that Mozilla was supposed to promote… but maybe you’re right, the AI genie is out of the bottle and there is little left to do about it. Its impact will be whatever it will be, no matter what people want to say about it.
Not sure which “old Mozilla” you want, the 1998 one? the 2005 one? the 2015 one? It has changed a lot indeed, but kind of has been Google’s anti-anti-thrust shield for 20+ years.
for AI, a lot of what mozilla is doing is kinda… meh, llamafile is maybe useful. But mostly, the only really neat thing that is relevant to mozilla is webgpu local AI stuff which chromium has better support for anyways atm lol.
Been with firefox since it was seamonkey, and been donating regularly until around baker. Mozilla has had it’s up and downs throughout then for sure. but lately, it’s just been downs.
Yeah, I don’t think I like llamafile, reusing some weights between models, and smaller updates, sounds like a better idea.
What I’d like to see is a unified WebNN support, for CPU, GPU, and NPU: WebNN Overview
(Not to pull rank, but my mail profile can be tracked to Netscape Navigator, across multiple OSs 😁)
webnn is neat. I’m not super excited for it too much since last time I looked into it, it for sure had some issues. They seem to be addressed though. ONNX is not a terrible interface to work with either and has good platform support so that wont be an issue. I do prefer wgpu solutions however. While they don’t work with NPUs (for obvious reasons :D) they are pretty much a “program once run anywhere” solution since it supports metal, dx12 and vulkan. (Only recently got fp16 support though so most things are still rough)
but for higher perf needs I can see webnn being a lot more useful
just means older then I am ;D