“What you lose” OK, lol.

Sorry, I hadn’t heard anything about CE3 being done. I knew CE1 was Skyrim, I didn’t realize that FO4 was still considered to be on CE1, it was a pretty big step up, I’m surprised. So CE2 is Starfield, my thought process still stands, which is: I wouldn’t be surprised if they used Starfield as the basis for the Obsidian project, in much the same way as they used FO3 for FONV.

Anyway, it’s not important whether they use CE3 or however it washes out, I’m just actually excited by Obsidian doing a new Fallout. Todd can suck it.

I don’t believe that Obsidian will be using CE3, I believe they will use the same engine as FO4/Starfield. I don’t think they will be tasked with pushing the technology further now any more than they were tasked with it for FONV. They may extend it a bit (like how they added weapon mods in FONV) but their focus will only be on releasing an entertaining title quickly (and I think the whole idea to bring Obsidian in was a great decision on Microsoft’s part). I think the other group will be tasked with moving the engine forward for FO5 and ESVI.

I agree with your assessments of both FO76 and Starfield. I played them both, but only because I got free accounts for both of them, FO76 on Xbox and Starfield I got a month’s worth of free Game Pass and played it via streaming. They’re both terrible. FO4 was also pretty terrible, imo. I’ve enjoyed replaying the Oblivion remaster more than anything they’ve done since Skyrim. So, I’m also not holding my breath for what comes next and you might be 100% right, but I do like the Obsidian angle for this reason, if nothing else: the competition will put Todd’s incompetence on display. Todd’s not the only game in town now, and for the first time in over a decade, he might be feeling some heat.

Edit: if they do use the FO4 engine, I hope they correct every stupid mistake they made in FO4 the way you can do it yourself with mods.

Also what, like, Bethesda is going to somehow make the Creation Engine not a giant pile of shit, with now 15 more years of acculumated technical debt from never doing a full ground up rebuild… ?

We’ve been saying this since Morrowind: Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim, Fallout NV, Fallout 4 - Gamebryo sucks, what are they going to do to this wheezing trash heap etc etc - and every time they do the same thing: update the graphics and gameplay marginally, introduce new elements (dual wielding magic, radiant quests, settlement building, whatever) release it as the “new” version (outrageously buggy ofc) and largely let the mod community fix it. I’ll go out on a limb here and say that’s probably what FO5 and ESVI will also do, it’s the path of least resistance and nobody will be bringing out their surprised Pikachu faces.

I don’t really care all that much because I like the games, none more than FONV, so I’d be happy for Obsidian to hot rod FO4 into something equally interesting.

To be fair, the article makes it sound like Obsidian is going to be doing with Fallout 4 what they did with Fallout 3/NV - use the existing game engine to create an entirely new game - versus what Bethesda is doing, which is updating the whole system to Fallout 5, which presumably would be sharing some work with ESVI.

One of those things would actually be more difficult than the other, though I’d also suspect that Microsoft’s atitude here is driven by Bethesda’s largesse when it comes to ESVI. It’s been discussed to death but a single non-trailer on your biggest tentpole in 10 years in favor of your boss’ seriously mid space game is certainly a… decision.

I loved GTA 3, the first one I ever played and bonus, Vice City was even better! I thought GTA 4 was OK - not great, not terrible. I hated GTA 5. Similarly, I loved RDR and hated RDR 2 (I know I basically stand alone on this one).

Personally I feel like Rockstar is on a trajectory. My interest in 6 is in negative numbers. It’s not like I don’t like the genre. I love Cyberpunk, but even that I didn’t buy until I managed to get it on sale for $20.

I might consider getting GTA 6 if it goes on sale for $5, which it won’t. Hell, they still want $20 for 4 lol. Money grubbing shits.

hops just have to be closer.

It doesn’t take much of a leap of imagination to see a torrent-like system utilizing all available devices within earshot to spread the bandwidth around to realize a pretty fast system available nearly everywhere in dense urban areas and slower (but ubiquitous) coverage the more rural you get. Obviously we’re far away from that now, but this definitely seems like the future to me.

I believe this stuff is going to be huge. Reticulum, Lora, Meshtastic all bit players now in a drama that has yet to get a finished script. It will start out as a supplement to the Internet, allowing you connectivity even when your Internet falters and as it becomes more ubiquitous, it will be increasingly used/usable and increasingly important. It can’t be shut down, it can’t be controlled. A country would literally have to ban radio signals of any kind in order to shut it down. It’s free. Buy the hardware, use the network, because you are the network. I love this.

Bethesda on point with a course correction already! Damn son, slow your roll. A new logo? Shit, fuck the Elder Scrolls, we got a new logo.