The promise of AI, for corporations and investors, is that companies can increase profits and productivity by slashing their reliance upon a skilled human workforce. But as this story and many others show, AI is just today’s buzzword for “outsourcing,” and it comes with the same problems that have plagued outsourced companies and workforces for decades.

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    I get you. It’s just that when a company says they’re offering AI solutions, it’s most likely just outsourced workforce under the hood.

    Companies can either spend one or two years of R&D, possibly involving PhDs, to solve a task using AI, or they can get the product out to the market in a few months by outsourcing the AI part. The first option might not even be up to par with the outsourced option even with all the money spent on R&D.

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      You’re still talking about training AIs, though. Using AIs doesn’t require years of work and PhDs to research. You just sign a contract with one of the AI service providers and they give you an API. You may need to do a little scripting to hook up a front end and some fiddling with prompts and parameters to get the AI to respond correctly, but as I said above, I’ve done this myself in my own home. Entirely on my own, entirely just for fun. It’s really not hard, I could point you to a couple of links for some free software you could use to do it yourself. Heck, even the training part isn’t hard if you’re starting with one of the existing open models and you’ve got the hardware for it.

      Do you really think all those companies out there with chatbot “help staff” (that speak perfect English and respond faster than a well-trained typist could type) are most likely just outsourced workforce to some cheap foreign company? What is the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of computer hardware the AI service providers are running actually being used for, if not that?

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        I’m talking about the entire process from design to product. Ok, maybe those useless chatbot “help staff” might be actual LLMs, but that Amazon grocery store used as example in the article was just Indian labor all along.

        As soon you want to solve a very specific problem using AI, it can quickly get time consuming and expensive to develop the product. Maybe that off the shelf AI model isn’t good enough for your particular problem? Maybe it only gives 75% accuracy when you really need 95% to be competitive in the market. In that case you need to compare different models, figure out if there’s any trick you can do to boost the accuracy, try out different training strategies, etc.

        And once the model has 95% accuracy on your own labeled data, it might turn out it’s completely worthless out in the field because it turns out the data you collected isn’t representative of the reality.

        At that point you might just try to figure out how to offload the work someone else. I’ve even heard of self driving car companies who did exactly that.

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          Going back to my original comment:

          Sure, but the fact that not all AI isn’t really AI doesn’t mean it isn’t real.

          The fact that Amazon was faking it in this one instance doesn’t poof all the actual AI out of existence. There are plenty of off-the-shelf AI models that are good enough for various particular problems, they can go ahead and use them. You said it yourself, the chatbot “help staff” might be actual LLMs.

          At that point you might just try to figure out how to offload the work someone else.

          As I said, most companies using AI will likely be hiring professional AI service providers for it. That’s where those hundreds of billions of dollars I mentioned above are going, where all the PhDs spending years on R&D are working.